PI LICENSING: Michigan

[Legal Affairs]

NO LICENSE IS REQUIRED
IF you fall into the following:

1. S338.824 Exemptions (For 1965):
   
2. NO LICENSE NEEDED FOR: A person employed exclusively and regularly by an employer in connection with the affairs of the employer only and there exists a bona fide employer-employee relationship for which the employee is reimbursed on a salary basis.
   
3. NO LICENSE NEEDED FOR: The business of obtaining and furnishing information as to the financial standing, rating, and credit responsibility of persons or as to the personal habits and financial responsibility of applicants for insurance, indemnity bonds, or commercial credit.
   
4. NO LICENSE NEEDED FOR: An attorney at law in performing his or her duties as such attorney at law.
   
5. NO LICENSE NEEDED FOR: A collection agency or finance company licensed to do business under the laws of this state or any employee of a collection agency or finance company while acting within the scope of his or her employment when making an investigation incidental to the business of the agency, including an investigation of the location of the debtor or his or her assets and property in which the client has an interest or upon which the client has a lien.
   
6. NO LICENSE NEEDED FOR: A charitable philanthropic society or association duly incorporated under the laws of this state that is organized and maintained for the public good and not for private profit.
   
7. NO LICENSE NEEDED FOR: An insurance adjuster who is employed on a salary basis by an insurance company or a person, firm, partnership, company, limited liability company, or corporation that acts for an insurance company solely in the capacity of claim adjuster. A person, firm, partnership, company, limited liability company, or corporation engaged in the business of public adjuster acting for claimants in securing adjustments of claims against insurance companies and who does not perform investigative services including, but not limited to, surveillance activities.
   
8. NO LICENSE NEEDED FOR: A professional engineer acting within the scope of his or her licensed professional practice who does not perform investigative services, including, but not limited to, surveillance activities or other activities outside of the scope of his or her licensed professional practice.

NOTES:

OTHER CONSIDERATIONS - OPINIONS FOR 2002-2003

The following is based on a legal opinion. Because the exemptions have not been updated since 1965, most states now include the following exemptions because of the technological and career advances in the last 35+ years:

(a) Except as provided by this section, this chapter does not apply to an officer or employee of the United States, this state, or a political subdivision of this state while the employee or officer is performing official duties.

(b) The provisions of this chapter relating to security officer commissions apply to a person employed by a political subdivision whose duties include serving as a security guard, security watchman, or security patrolman on property owned or operated by the political subdivision if the governing body of the political subdivision files a written request with the commission for the commission to issue a commission to the political subdivision's employees with those duties.

(c) The commission may not charge a fee for issuing a commission to an officer under Subsection (b). The commission shall issue to the officer a pocket card designating the political subdivision that employs the officer.

(d) The commission expires at the time the officer's employment as a security officer by the political subdivision is terminated.

(e) The commission may approve a security officer training program conducted by the political subdivision in accordance with Sections 1702.1675 and 1702.168.

This statute does not apply to:

(1) a person who has full-time employment as a peace officer and who receives compensation for private employment on an individual or an independent contractor basis as a patrolman, guard, extra job coordinator, or watchman if the officer:

(A) is employed in an employee-employer relationship or employed on an individual contractual basis;

(B) is not in the employ of another peace officer;

(C) is not a reserve peace officer; and

(D) works as a peace officer on the average of at least 32 hours a week, is compensated by the state or a political subdivision of the state at least at the minimum wage, and is entitled to all employee benefits offered to a peace officer by the state or political subdivision;

This statute does not apply to:

(2) a reserve peace officer while the reserve officer is performing guard, patrolman, or watchman duties for a county and is being compensated solely by that county;

(3) a peace officer acting in an official capacity in responding to a burglar alarm or detection device; or

(4) a person engaged in the business of electronic monitoring of an individual as a condition of that individual's community supervision, parole, mandatory supervision, or release on bail, if the person does not perform any other service that requires a license under this chapter.

This statute does not apply to:

(a) Except as provided by Subsections (b) and (d), this chapter does not apply to an individual employed in an employee-employer relationship exclusively and regularly by one employer in connection with the affairs of the employer.

(b) An individual described by Subsection (a) who carries a firearm in the course of employment must obtain a private security officer commission under this chapter.

(c) Although the security department of a private business that hires or employs an individual as a private security officer to possess a firearm in the course and scope of the individual's duties is required to apply for a security officer commission for the individual under this chapter, the security department of a private business is not required to apply to the commission for any license under this chapter.

(d) This chapter applies to an individual described by Subsection (a) who:

(1) works at a location that is open to the public; and

(2) in the course of employment:

(A) regularly comes into contact with the public; and

(B) wears a uniform with any type of badge commonly associated with security personnel or law enforcement or a patch or apparel with "security" or the name of the employer on the patch or apparel.

(a) For the purposes of this section, "landman" means an individual who, in the course and scope of the individual's business:

(1) acquires or manages petroleum or mineral interests; or

(2) performs title or contract functions related to the exploration, exploitation, or disposition of petroleum or mineral interests.

(b) This chapter does not apply to:

(1) a manufacturer or a manufacturer's authorized distributor who sells equipment to a license holder that is used in the operations for which the person is required to be licensed;

(2) a person engaged exclusively in the business of obtaining and providing information to:

(A) determine creditworthiness;

(B) collect debts; or

(C) ascertain the reliability of information provided by an applicant for property, life, or disability insurance or an indemnity or surety bond;

This statute does not apply to:
(3) a person engaged exclusively in the business of repossessing property that is secured by a mortgage or other security interest;

(4) a locksmith who:

(A) does not install or service detection devices;

(B) does not conduct investigations; and

(C) is not a security services contractor;

(5) a person who:

(A) is engaged in the business of psychological testing or other testing and interviewing services, including services to determine attitudes, honesty, intelligence, personality, and skills, for preemployment purposes; and

(B) does not perform any other service that requires a license under this chapter;

This statute does not apply to:
(6) a person who:

(A) is engaged in obtaining information that is a public record under Chapter 552, Government Code, regardless of whether the person receives compensation;

(B) is not a full-time employee, as defined by Section 61.001, Labor Code, of a person licensed under this chapter; and

(C) does not perform any other act that requires a license under this chapter;

This statute does not apply to:
(7) a licensed professional engineer practicing engineering or directly supervising engineering practice under The Texas Engineering Practice Act (Article 3271a, Vernon's Texas Civil Statutes), including forensic analysis, burglar alarm system engineering, and necessary data collection;

(8) an employee of a cattle association who inspects livestock brands under the authority granted to the cattle association by the Grain Inspection, Packers and Stockyards Administration of the United States Department of Agriculture;

(9) a landman performing activities in the course and scope of the landman's business;

(10) an attorney while engaged in the practice of law;

(11) a person who obtains a document for use in litigation under an authorization or subpoena issued for a written or oral deposition;

(12) an admitted insurer, insurance adjuster, agent, or insurance broker licensed by the state, performing duties in connection with insurance transacted by that person.

This statute does not apply to:
(1) a common carrier by rail engaged in interstate commerce, regulated by state and federal authorities, and transporting commodities essential to the national defense and to the general welfare and safety of the community; or

(2) an officer, employee, or agent of a common carrier, as defined by Section 153 of the federal Communications Act of 1934 (47 U.S.C. Section 153), and its subsequent amendments, while protecting the carrier or a user of the carrier's long-distance services from a fraudulent, unlawful, or abusive use of those long-distance services.

(a) This chapter does not apply to an entity that:

(1) provides medical alert services for persons who are sick or disabled;

(2) does not provide any other service that requires a license under this chapter; and

(3) is:

(A) a hospital or a wholly owned subsidiary or an affiliate of a hospital licensed under Chapter 241, Health and Safety Code; or

(B) a charitable or a nonprofit entity that provides the services in the manner required by Subsection (b) and that is exempt from the payment of federal income taxes under Section 501(a) of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 and its subsequent amendments by being listed as an exempt entity under Section 501(c)(3) of that code.

(C) A charitable or nonprofit entity that provides medical alert services must provide those services through a licensed person, licensed nurse, licensed physician assistant or by a hospital, subsidiary, or affiliate described by Subsection (a)(3)(A).

This statute does not apply to:
(1) a nonprofit business or civic organization that:

(A) employs a peace officer who meets the qualifications of as a patrolman, guard, or watchman;

(B) provides the services of the peace officer only to:

(i) the organization's members; or

(ii) if the organization does not have members, the members of the communities served by the organization as described in the organization's articles of incorporation or other organizational documents;

(C) devotes the net receipts from all charges for the services exclusively to the cost of providing the services or to the costs of other services for the enhancement of the security or safety of:

(i) the organization's members; or

(ii) if the organization does not have members, the members of the communities served by the organization as described in the organization's articles of incorporation or other organizational documents; and

(D) does not perform any other service that requires a license under this chapter; or

This statute does not apply to:
(2) a charitable, nonprofit organization that maintains a system of records to aid in the location of missing children and that:

(A) is exempt from the payment of federal income taxes under Section 501(a) of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 and its subsequent amendments by being listed as an exempt entity under Section 501(c)(3) of that code;

(B) exclusively provides services related to locating missing children; and

(C) does not perform any other service that requires a license under this chapter.

This statute does not apply to:
(1) a person who owns and installs a burglar detection or alarm device on the person's own property or, if the person does not charge for the device or the installation, installs the device for the protection of the person's personal property located on another person's property and does not, as a normal business practice, install the devices on the property of another;

(2) a person in the business of building construction that installs electrical wiring and devices that may include in part the installation of a burglar alarm or detection device if:

(A) the person is a party to a contract that provides that:

(i) the installation will be performed under the direct supervision of, and inspected and certified by, a person licensed to install and certify the alarm or detection device; and

(ii) the license holder assumes full responsibility for the installation of the alarm or detection device; and

(B) the person does not service or maintain burglar alarms or detection devices;

(3) a person who sells or installs automobile burglar alarm devices and who does not perform any other act that requires a license under this chapter; or

(4) a person who sells exclusively over the counter or by mail order burglar alarm signal devices, burglary alarms, television cameras, still cameras, or other electrical, mechanical, or electronic devices used for preventing or detecting burglary, theft, or other losses.

This statute does not apply to:

(1) a person whose activities are regulated under Article 5.43-2, Insurance Code, except to the extent those activities are specifically regulated under this chapter; or

(2) a person who holds a license or other credential issued by a municipality to practice as an electrician and who installs fire or smoke detectors only in single-family or multifamily residences.

This statute does not apply to:

(1) a person who is employed full-time by and is commissioned as a campus security personnel employee by a private institution of higher education under Section 51.212, Education Code; or

(2) a peace officer commissioned by an incorporated municipality who is hired under Section 51.212, Education Code, on a regular basis by a private institution of higher education while that peace officer is operating within the scope of the peace officer's employment with the institution of higher education.

TO REVIEW FOR A LICENSE
Review the following web links:

http://www.michigan.gov/lara/0,4601,...600---,00.html

Call the office:
http://www.michigan.gov/lara/0,4601,...2245--,00.html


License Lookup

Verify a license: Click Here[/B]

[Kimley Armour -]

Currently, I possess a Bachelor of Arts in Developmental Psychology. Am I eligible to apply for a Michigan Private Investigator License or I must have a Criminal Justice Degree?

[Legal Affairs]

Originally posted by Kimley Armour
Currently, I possess a Bachelor of Arts in Developmental Psychology. Am I eligible to apply for a Michigan Private Investigator License or I must have a Criminal Justice Degree?

The link to the state website is located on the bottom of the topic you just read.

[Matthew Baran]

As I understand it from above. You really only need a PI licence in MI if you are going to opperate your own business. This can be very helpful as I am only 23 and have a bachelor's in Political Science (I am however working part time toward a masters in Criminal Justice).

[Phillip P. Donahue]

Matthew,

Sorry you are only half right… Michigan does require a license to practice investigations unless you work for a licensed investigative agency. (See below) The licensing agency is the Michigan Department of consumer and industry services located in Lansing their phone number is (517) 241-5645 also their website is listed below.

You don’t need a license if you do the work under one of the occupations that are listed under the exemptions. However, if you want to do the work for someone else or another company then you HAVE to have a license. I have also listed the requirements required to apply for a license.

http://www.michigan.gov/cis/0,1607,7...297---,00.html

Phillip P. Donahue
Director of Investigation
Premier Investigation Services L.L.C.
Lic. # 3701204715
________________________________________________
Licensing Requirements

An applicant for a private detective agency license must meet the following requirements:

Be not less than 25 years old.

Have a high school education or its equivalent.

Have not been convicted of:
1. dishonesty or fraud
2. unauthorized divulging or selling of information or evidence.
3. Impersonation of a law enforcement officer or employee of the US, Michigan or a political subdivision of Michigan.
4. Illegally using, carrying or possessing a dangerous weapon
5. Two or more alcohol related offenses.
6. Controlled substances.
7. Assault.

Have not been dishonorably discharged from the US military.

Possesses a bachelors degree in police administration or criminal justice from an accredited college or university or for a period of not less than 3 years has been:

1.Lawfully engaged in the private detective business in another state.

2. An investigative employee of a licensed private detective agency.

3. An investigator, detective, special agent or certified police officer of a city, county, or state government or the United States government.

Has posted a $10,000 surety bond with the Department or furnishes an insurance policy in the amount of $10,000.00 for property damages, $100,000.00 for the injury or death of one person, and $200,000.00 for injuries to or deaths of more than one person.
___________________________________________________


PRIVATE DETECTIVE LICENSE ACT OF 1965 (EXCERPT)


Act 285 of 1965

338.823 License required; violation; penalty.
Sec. 3.

(1) A person, firm, partnership, company, limited liability company, or corporation shall not engage in the business of private detective or investigator for hire, fee or reward, and shall not advertise his or her business to be that of detective or of a detective agency without first obtaining a license from the department.

(2) A person, firm, partnership, company, limited liability company, or corporation shall not engage in the business of furnishing or supplying, for hire and reward, information as to the personal character of any person or firm, or as to the character or kind of business and occupation of any person, firm, partnership, company, limited liability company, or corporation and shall not own, conduct, or maintain a bureau or agency for the purposes described in this subsection except as to the financial rating of persons, firms, partnerships, companies, limited liability companies, or corporations without having first obtained a license from the department.

(3) A person violating this section is guilty of a felony punishable by imprisonment for not more than 4 years or by a fine of not more than $5,000.00, or both.


History: 1965, Act 285, Imd. Eff. July 22, 1965 ;--Am. 1974, Act 114, Eff. July 1, 1974 ;--Am. 2002, Act 474, Eff. Oct. 1, 2002 .


© 2003 Legislative Council, State of Michigan PRIVATE DETECTIVE LICENSE ACT OF 1965 (EXCERPT)

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Here are the only Exemptions allowed

Act 285 of 1965

338.824 Exemptions from act.
Sec. 4.

This act does not apply to any of the following:

(a) A person employed exclusively and regularly by an employer in connection with the affairs of the employer only and there exists a bona fide employer-employee relationship for which the employee is reimbursed on a salary basis.

(b) An officer or employee of the United States, this state, or a political subdivision of this state while that officer or employee is engaged in the performance of his or her official duties.

(c) The business of obtaining and furnishing information as to the financial standing, rating, and credit responsibility of persons or as to the personal habits and financial responsibility of applicants for insurance, indemnity bonds, or commercial credit.

(d) A charitable philanthropic society or association duly incorporated under the laws of this state that is organized and maintained for the public good and not for private profit.

(e) An attorney at law in performing his or her duties as such attorney at law.

(f) A collection agency or finance company licensed to do business under the laws of this state or any employee of a collection agency or finance company while acting within the scope of his or her employment when making an investigation incidental to the business of the agency, including an investigation of the location of the debtor or his or her assets and property in which the client has an interest or upon which the client has a lien.

(g) An insurance adjuster who is employed on a salary basis by an insurance company or a person, firm, partnership, company, limited liability company, or corporation that acts for an insurance company solely in the capacity of claim adjuster. A person, firm, partnership, company, limited liability company, or corporation engaged in the business of public adjuster acting for claimants in securing adjustments of claims against insurance companies and who does not perform investigative services including, but not limited to, surveillance activities.

(h) A professional engineer acting within the scope of his or her licensed professional practice who does not perform investigative services, including, but not limited to, surveillance activities or other activities outside of the scope of his or her licensed professional practice.



History: 1965, Act 285, Imd. Eff. July 22, 1965 ;--Am. 2002, Act 474, Eff. Oct. 1, 2002 .


© 2003 Legislative Council, State of Michigan

[Rhonda Warner -]

Hi All,

I am a former police officer (11+ years sworn experience & B.A. in CJ). I have been out of the field for about 4 years. I am going to apply for a MI PI license (looking to work part-time in investigations). I read the licensing statute and it states that a $10,000 bond must be posted or a liability insurance policy must be obtained. Can anyone tell me the avg. premium range for the liability insurance? Do I have any other options around this requirement since I am planning on working only part-time? All the other requirements are no problem.
Thanks in advance for any assistance you can give me.

[Kevin Savage]

Hi Rhonda,

Good luck with starting your new career in P.I. I moved from Michigan just 3 mos ago. I'm retired Corrections officer of 20yrs., but because I did not have a degree from college I ws not able to obtain my license in Mich. So I moved to Georgia where it does not take as long to get while working under a license P.I. Here in Ga. you only have to work for 2 yrs. under one to applie for you own license. It's 3yrs. there and even though I was working for the state of michigan for 20yrs. it did not matter to state board because I was not a Police Officer..
Sorry I don't have any answer to your question about Insurance, but I do wish you the best of luck...


SAVAGE

[Rhonda Warner -]

Ken,
Thanks, for the encouraging words. I'm sorry to to hear that you had to relocate to pursue your career, but am glad that everything turned out o.k.

[Jim Lyons]

Okay, so I'm not (independently) licensed (but) I have (worked) five years experience with a licensed agency.

I meet all the other qualifications for a Michigan license. But I can not come up with five people who I have known for five years who would be willing to write nice letters about me as references.

Now, it's not like I don't have friends. But my philosophy of "people suck" doesn't bode well for long-term friendships.

I've got two specific problems: I've moved several times in the last 15 years, so I really haven't "known" that many people for five years. And the people I do know don't want a state trooper knocking on their door to ask any followup questions.

I figure I could scrounge up two or three letters, but not five.

Any experiences with this issue or any ideas on the topic?

[Lance Jefferson]

Jim, this topic may or may note yield any help for you.

So I suggest you author a new topic in the Trainee Forum titled "How do I get Good References?".

And if that does not work, consider joining IPIU as a union member and gain access to the private forum that will take on your case for free help from IPIU.

Details here:
http://www.privateinvestigators.cc/i...8db8b3d9ac3e5d

[Kevin Savage]

Hey Jim,

Do you know any lawyers or police officers. I found when I lived in detroit and was trying to get my license that a references
from one or both of these people will go a long way.

SAVAGE

[Jim Lyons]

I've got two police officers and a lawyer on the list, but that's only three. I really just wondered if I could slide by with three decent ones, or if the five references known for five years is a hard and fast rule.

[Kevin Savage]

Hey Jim,

I would say go with the three and you should not have any problems.

Good Luck


SAVAGE

[Julia Ann Stewart]

Originally posted by Jim Lyons
I've got two police officers and a lawyer on the list, but that's only three. I really just wondered if I could slide by with three decent ones, or if the five references known for five years is a hard and fast rule.

Please follow Mr. Jefferson's direction and post a New Topic in the Experienced Forum titled "How do I get Good References?". The previous comments will probably be archived because they are off-topic and do not pertain to the statutes.

[Erin V McDonald]

I am rather confused about all the michigan laws. I tried to read through the posting about what you can and can not do but it all seemed to be written in some foreign language. I would just like to know what my restrictions are. Is there anyone that can break down these laws into simple english?

[David Copeland]

Erin, if you read the top post here, there are 7 numbers of areas that you can advertise and work as a private investigator without needing a state PI license. As an example, you can be a private investigator for an attorney without a having your own license.

[Erin V McDonald]

So let me see if I get this right. I will probably require a license if I want to go into crime scene analysis or undercover investigations but I will not need a license for process serving. I won't turn 25 for another few years so I hope that I will be able to do some private investigative work until I can apply for my license.

[Lance Jefferson]

Originally posted by Erin V McDonald
So let me see if I get this right. I will probably require a license if I want to go into crime scene analysis or undercover investigations

It's not "what" you do, it's who you work for that determines whether or not you need a separate license. We have undercover assignments in the Assignment Forum that do not require a PI license. But first, get your training.

[Erin V McDonald]

Thanks So Much! Now I understand Completely!

[Leslie Stubbs-Hanks--]

Thank you for the information.
I would just like to note, I think this is really great. I am looking for a career for the second stage of life, and I am sure this is the one since I have been interested in this field for most of my life.

[Steven Featherstone]

Well, Im glad to learn that there is work available for a PI in Michigan without having a license. I dont have a background in law enforcement or a degree in criminal justice but I do have a desire to learn if given the opportunity. Im wise enough to know when to ask questions and when to shut up and listen. I want to be a PI. I like to know I can have a chance to prove myself.

[Ronald Gilkie]

It's good to know all of exemptions that make a person eligible to recieve an private investigators license. But let me get one thing straight. I read to recieve a private detective license you can not have two or more alcohol related offenses. I want to know is this the same for recieving a private investigators license.

[Mr. Craig Pifer -]

Man, Michigan sure does make it hard for a currenlty Licensed Private Investigator like myself (2 years in August) to get a License in their state. My wife is getting ready to retire from the Navy, and we are looking to move back to Michigan, but if I can't get a PI License up there after I have owned and operated my own Company down here in Tennessee for the last two years, I am not sure if I want to move back up there.

[Cheryl Bates]

Michigan is a hard state to try to do much of anything for the good! I have been reading what Michigan requires, and I think for now I will be more than happy to work for someone else! There is much to be learned yet for me to even think about getting my own license . Maybe someday I will go for it! One of Northern Michigan's school's senior classes motto is: ("Shoot for the Moon, and you just might land among the stars!") I think that is a wonderful way of putting it!

Cheryl
(Charlee)

[Lisa Mahoney]

Hello all, I have wanted to be a P.I. for a long time, but I never new MI had so many rules. So, if I have read all of this right, I will have to have a degree in something law related to get my own P.I. License. But, if I work under a Law Firm or Court, I would not need to be licensed. What about a Prosecuting Office?
Thank-You for all and any help!

[Donna Reagan]

I will have to have a degree in something law related to get my own P.I. License.

You can get your own PI license by working for another licensed PI agency for a few years to earn your hours.

Or, you can start your own agency without the earned hours by getting an employee with a PI License to be responsible for your cases.

But, if I work under a Law Firm or Court, I would not need to be licensed. What about a Prosecuting Office?

Law office, okay.
Court investigator, okay.
Prosecuting office investigator, okay.
Any of the eight types of firms or companies listed at the top.
Or, any private company that falls into Number 2 above.

[Ryan Shaul]

Okay, I now have a problem. I just read, "An applicant for a private detective agency license must meet the following requirements:

Be not less than 25 years old. " I'm only 23!!! I served, honorably in the US Army for four years and am currently enrolled in Ferris State University in their Criminal Justice: Law Enforcement program. Can I still get certified, just not lisenced? Can I even keep with the training program?

[Daniel Mayer -]

Question--- I've got all my IPIU credentials, badge included--my plan was to open a DBA under my name as a business for case examining, do some process serving and also seek work from an attorney office or PI that needed assistance. Does this fall within the realm of Michigan Laws as not needing a PI license --everything I could read tells me it does, but I want another opinion to be sure--Thanks

[Donna Reagan]

In response to the above information, anyone in the state of michigan who wishes to conduct investigations must be licensed.

Untrue.

Web link:
http://www.michiganlegislature.org/m...824&highlight=

[Toni French]

Does anyone know if all the same Licensing Laws are still true? I notice that the copyright is 2003, but that could be anywhere from 1 to 2 years old. Michigan as a whole has had some restrictions lifted or modified when it comes to licensing for other agencies, just wondering if they relaxed a bit on the PI side as well.

[Brian DeLeeuw---]

Thanks to all who posted here for the info. I am perfectly fine with not having a PI license, since I don't plan on starting my own agency or working independently... at least not yet

[John Pape--]

This is one of the clearest threads that I have read so far, thank you to all who posted here. I was wondering as well about any changes to the laws regard licensing in the last few years.
Thank you
John

[Lori Mantyla -]

Lance Jefferson,

I am new to the union and training program. As I see it, you wrote your response to licensing questions in 2002. It seems that requirements have changed since then? Could you enlighten me now as to what type of credentials I will actually be acquiring now once I complete my manual and test thru the union? I am waiting for my manual and have finished all previous steps. I guess what I'm looking for is clarification of the difference between the liscense I get from IPIU and a registered state license for private investigation. Do they still require a full degree for the p.i. MI liscense?

[Jenn Dunckel]

Well I have finally found others from Michigan. I too am from MI and have just started my PI training via the forums. I do not have a degree in Criminal Justice but will have oneBusiness Administration shortly. I am just fine working for somebody. I do not have the desire to own a business currently. So to clear this up for me (I know this has been asked in some form early).......I do not need a degree to work as a PI in MI? As long as I work for somebody else who is liscensed I will be able to get my liscense? Thank you for the help.

[Derek E Moore]

Licensing Requirements
How and where can I get the application licensing for the State of Michigan

[Thomas Wayne Williams--]

It is great to see fellow "Michiganders" here in the forums. This thread has been very helpful and has answered alot of my questions and concerns.

[Joyce Jameson -]

[QUOTE=Phillip P. Donahue]Matthew,

Thank you for this post, as I also live in Michigan I know how they tend to make everything a little more complicated then we would like sometimes, I found this to be very helpfull, Thank you.
Joyce

[John Franklin Davis]

Michigan likes their paperwork.

[Lace Waldron]

Now that the Michigan State Police are not involved in the Michigan P.I. Licensing Act, it is even more difficult to obtain your license. I was a Police Officer in Michigan for many years, have a BA in Criminal Justice and a Masters. Have lived in Michigan almost my whole life...had many referance letters...got the proper insurance and it still took months for my licence to be approved. Good luck!

[Anthony D Williams]

what if you posses an crime scene technician certificate and you are an trainee for private investigator can you still get an liscense for private.