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    Re: NYC and strict gun laws

    Quote Originally Posted by Joseph Lebron View Post
    Hello Donna,
    So once I receive my state issued PI License, how do qualify for a concealed weapons permit? It is dangerous here in NY to operate in BEA work without a weapon.
    For New York City, once you have your state PI License, contact your local police station for the instructions to obtain a gun permit.
    Quote Originally Posted by Joseph Lebron View Post
    Thank you Donna. If I become a Lifetime Corporate Member and get sponsorship assistance, do you just give me a list of sponsors or companies that may or may not sponsor me, or will I get a gauranteed sponsorship?
    Lifetime Corporate Members never have to go out looking for a sponsor. IPIU will always do that for you. We have over 40,000 contacts to get several sponsors for you. There is no list to give you. We perform a telephone interview with prospective sponsors and verify their credentials. Then we simply provide you with the applicant(s) who wishes to sponsor your agency so that you can meet or speak to them in order to make your choice. The last one we did in Pennsylvania had over 70 licensed sponsors for the owner to choose from.
    Quote Originally Posted by Joseph Lebron View Post
    David, can I still be able to obtain a sponsorship as an individual rather than a corporation? I mean, once I'm actually ready to start filing paperwork with NYS to apply for my PI state issued license, I want to apply as an individual. Is it a must that I do apply as a corporation opposed to operating as an individual?
    The sponsorship benefit through IPIU requires a corporation, because your sponsor has to be listed on the corporate documents as a sponsor.

    OR:
    1) If you already have the 3-years experience (6000+ earned hours as an employed investigator) to qualify for an individual state PI license, then you can go ahead and apply now individually without incorporating yourself. But your personal name will be exposed and becomes a public record in New York as a licensed PI. Or, you can have IPIU incorporate you anonymously to protect your personal name and personal assets (in case their is a lawsuit later against you)

    2) If you do NOT have the 3-years experience (6000+ earned hours as an employed investigator) to qualify for an individual state PI license, then you would have to locate a willing licensed PI or agency to provide you with full time employment for the next 3 years (or the next 6 years if part-time) in order to FIRST qualify for your personal individual PI license.

    3) Remember, running any business as an individual and not a corporation has many risks and limitations involved. Setting up the proper corporation through IPIU will allow you to obtain an "agency license" which can employ as many licensed PI's with their names becoming part of a pubic record. Also, your corporation "lifetime membership" (through IPIU) provides for two ADDITIONAL FREE PERSONAL LIFETIME MEMBERSHIPS for either your family, partner, or colleague. For more on why you need a corporation: CLICK HERE

    Quote Originally Posted by Joseph Lebron View Post
    So, if I were to go with the Lifetime Corporate Membership which seems to be the best way after reading through some of the forums, approximately how long would it take for me to actually qualify for the Agency License through New York State? Three years still? Or immediately upon sponsorship?
    Your part may take approximately 5-6 weeks. Once you have passed the online training manual as a private investigator member, and have received your PI Union License, then upon the posting of your official sponsor instructions in your new agency forum, our part (the labor and professional review) can take approximately 5-6 business days to get all of your corporate applications and documents prepared with your approval. Once approved, it takes approximately 7 days to complete the telephone interviews for us to provide you with the name(s) and contact details of who you want to choose for a sponsor. Once you make your choice (based on either your interview or phone call with your prospective sponsor(s) and the documents are all signed, then you are preapproved for your agency license and the hard copy license is printed and mailed to you (generally in a few weeks, depending on the state)
    Quote Originally Posted by Joseph Lebron View Post
    So technically, I'll be licensed under my own company after my sponsor signs the agency licensing documents? And is that until the three years pass and I can use the experience to get my own personal license?
    Yes.

    Another role you will have is President of the PI Agency, which gives you the authority to sign off on other employees your agency wants to "hire".

    Your sponsor will simply be one of your vice presidents of the PI Agency you own, and will only work spare-time cases you need worked that you cannot work.

    You can then start advertising as a licensed PI and start working cases. Pay yourself a full time 40 hour salary (no matter how small in dollars) for the next 3 years. Your company books will show you (in 3 years) have worked full time as a private investigator for a licensed agency. You can then proceed to qualify as your own sponsor at that time for your own agency.

    As for you sponsor for the next three years, I suspect by then you will keep your sponsor on as a regular spare-time PI for his/her specialized skills, resources, and abilities. A 3-year relationship is worth keeping when it no longer requires you of anything.

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    Re: NYC and strict gun laws

    Quote Originally Posted by Donna Reagan View Post
    For New York City, once you have your state PI License, contact your local police station for the instructions to obtain a gun permit.
    Lifetime Corporate Members never have to go out looking for a sponsor. IPIU will always do that for you. We have over 40,000 contacts to get several sponsors for you. There is no list to give you. We perform a telephone interview with prospective sponsors and verify their credentials. Then we simply provide you with the applicant(s) who wishes to sponsor your agency so that you can meet or speak to them in order to make your choice. The last one we did in Pennsylvania had over 70 licensed sponsors for the owner to choose from.

    The sponsorship benefit through IPIU requires a corporation, because your sponsor has to be listed on the corporate documents as a sponsor.

    OR:
    1) If you already have the 3-years experience (6000+ earned hours as an employed investigator) to qualify for an individual state PI license, then you can go ahead and apply now individually without incorporating yourself. But your personal name will be exposed and becomes a public record in New York as a licensed PI. Or, you can have IPIU incorporate you anonymously to protect your personal name and personal assets (in case their is a lawsuit later against you)

    2) If you do NOT have the 3-years experience (6000+ earned hours as an employed investigator) to qualify for an individual state PI license, then you would have to locate a willing licensed PI or agency to provide you with full time employment for the next 3 years (or the next 6 years if part-time) in order to FIRST qualify for your personal individual PI license.

    3) Remember, running any business as an individual and not a corporation has many risks and limitations involved. Setting up the proper corporation through IPIU will allow you to obtain an "agency license" which can employ as many licensed PI's with their names becoming part of a pubic record. Also, your corporation "lifetime membership" (through IPIU) provides for two ADDITIONAL FREE PERSONAL LIFETIME MEMBERSHIPS for either your family, partner, or colleague. For more on why you need a corporation: CLICK HERE


    Your part may take approximately 5-6 weeks. Once you have passed the online training manual as a private investigator member, and have received your PI Union License, then upon the posting of your official sponsor instructions in your new agency forum, our part (the labor and professional review) can take approximately 5-6 business days to get all of your corporate applications and documents prepared with your approval. Once approved, it takes approximately 7 days to complete the telephone interviews for us to provide you with the name(s) and contact details of who you want to choose for a sponsor. Once you make your choice (based on either your interview or phone call with your prospective sponsor(s) and the documents are all signed, then you are preapproved for your agency license and the hard copy license is printed and mailed to you (generally in a few weeks, depending on the state)
    Yes.

    Another role you will have is President of the PI Agency, which gives you the authority to sign off on other employees your agency wants to "hire".

    Your sponsor will simply be one of your vice presidents of the PI Agency you own, and will only work spare-time cases you need worked that you cannot work.

    You can then start advertising as a licensed PI and start working cases. Pay yourself a full time 40 hour salary (no matter how small in dollars) for the next 3 years. Your company books will show you (in 3 years) have worked full time as a private investigator for a licensed agency. You can then proceed to qualify as your own sponsor at that time for your own agency.

    As for you sponsor for the next three years, I suspect by then you will keep your sponsor on as a regular spare-time PI for his/her specialized skills, resources, and abilities. A 3-year relationship is worth keeping when it no longer requires you of anything.
    Hi

    So are thes sponsors, just individual licensed P.I.s in our same state that will be training us, Oe that we can shadow for the in the field experience? Or are they Corporation business owners that are hiring us on into their agencies and training us for the next 3 years. Also, does working independently for MSP companies count toward our in field training of 3/yr requirement?

    Thank you,


    Kim R.

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    Re: NYC and strict gun laws

    Quote Originally Posted by Kim Collins View Post
    Hi

    So are these sponsors, just individual licensed P.I.s in our same state that will be training us?
    Answer:
    Sponsors hold a PI License in the state where you want to obtain your own agency license. The primary reason they are a sponsor is less about training and more about lending their license to use in getting your own state agency license immediately. The secondary motive of some sponsors may be to help the new owner become trained in various aspects of the field and running a business. All sponsors have their own specialty, which is beneficial to the new agency owner.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kim Collins View Post
    Or that we can shadow for the in the field experience?
    Answer:
    Yes. As the owner of the agency (you), sponsors can work your cases where you feel less qualified to perform. They work at a wholesale rate allowing themselves to work a portion of the case, and you as the owner of the agency earn the remainder of the client fee. So both of you earn money, and you can ride along or tag along because the case belongs to your agency.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kim Collins View Post
    are they Corporation business owners that are hiring us on into their agencies and training us for the next 3 years?
    Answer:
    No. They are not hiring you. You are hiring them in a spare-time as-needed basis to work available cases only if you choose. The decision for paying a sponsor for anything rests with you, as the owner of the agency. The primary motive of the sponsor is not to train you, but provide you with the use of their personal license for the next 2-3 years in order for you, as a paid employee private investigator of your own agency, will have the 2-3 years documented experience to get transfer the agency license sponsor to your personal license. In most cases, when the three years comes about, the sponsor and the owner choose to keep the relationship.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kim Collins View Post
    does working independently for MSP companies count toward our in field training of 3/yr requirement?
    Answer:
    Yes and no. It depends on the finaly structure of your corporation license and business. As a sole propriator who does not have a corporation, the answer is typically "no". But as a corporation agency owner, many times the experience can count. But it would be best to explore this in your private agency forum link here:

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    Re: Obtain preapproval of your Private Investigators License in as few as 5-6 weeks without waiting 3 years

    Please contact me to help me obtain my license with you. Thank you.

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    can or dose a professional union membership count towards this as well? as I am reading this it is saying corp or agenicey only sofar. Glen Fuller

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