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    Re: PI LICENSING: New Jersey

    Thank you very much Michael, I am sorry that I don't have deep pockets yet, I hope some day will be. I do know some lawyers, I don't think they know about the PI business.

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    Nina,

    I am sorry that I cannot give the detailed advice that you need, but I hope that I can keep you from getting in over your head.

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    thank you anyway Michael, you have been join IPIU about four years, sound you doing very will, are you a own agency yourself?

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    Nina,

    I did not have deep pockets then or now. I do keep in touch with associates in the security world - police, PIs, consultants, et al.

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    I understand, good for you, I wish you good luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donna Reagan View Post
    Philip, the general rule is that anyone can investigate anyone without a license. But the moment they accept a payment for the investigation, then they have to make sure the case assignment is either regulated or unregulated by the state. The exemptions listed in Post #1 of this topic show the unregulated areas of type of private investigations. So you have to ask yourself first what type of assignment you are pursuing.

    Secondly, all forms of advertising as a private investigator are regulated by the state.
    Is Advertising as a Criminal Defense Investigator unlawful if you are not licensed in the State of NJ?

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    Is Advertising as a Criminal Defense Investigator unlawful if you are not licensed in the State of NJ?
    Answer: No.

    See Sections 9 of the statutes as Revised, #1-3.

    The statutes pertain to advertising as a "Private" investigator, not a criminal defense investigator.

    Quote Originally Posted by Brandi Alexander View Post
    Currently I am working on a criminal case for a CJA Panel attorney, this is third case I have worked on.
    Your business card could very easily read:

    (name)
    Private Investigator
    Law Offices of (name of attorney)
    Address of attorney
    (cell phone)

    Quote Originally Posted by Brandi Alexander View Post
    the man asked me if I was licensed and I told him no,
    That is a mistake. The better answer would be "I work under the license of (name of attorney) as a private investigator".


    Quote Originally Posted by Brandi Alexander View Post
    he then proceeded to tell that he did not understand how I was able to do investigational work without a license. (And of course he was a retired officer)
    Hand him a copy of Post #1 of this topic where all of the exemptions for private investigator licensing are listed for New Jersey. Most cops never read the statutes. They just get handed their PI License and think that everyone else has to be a cop too.

    The unregulated portions of a investigating are also noted in the statutes. No one needs a PI license to pull public civil and criminal records, but that is what licensed PI's do as well as unlicensed PI's, case examiners, and others do.


    Quote Originally Posted by Brandi Alexander View Post
    Also I am not looking to be a PI, I am only interested in working for attorneys. I am total confused my business cards have my title as "criminal defense investigator", is this lawful?
    Yes. But you should carry a copy of the statutes with you for dummies who may ask you otherwise.

    A criminal defense investigator is not advertising as a private investigator. The titles are different.


    Quote Originally Posted by Brandi Alexander View Post
    Should I change my title?
    You could use the official IPIU recommended title of Case Examiner.

    Join IPIU and get free access to the following samples of approved business cards:
    http://www.ipiu.org/forums/showthread.php?t=15452

    You can also take advantage of requesting a PI Union License and Membership here:
    http://www.privateinvestigators.cc/p...b27d6d4564758f

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    Thank you for the knowledge Technical Support. I am considering joining IPIU, I am still letting the idea marinate.

    Thanks

    Brandi

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    Re: PI LICENSING: New Jersey

    Brandi,

    How is the thought of joining us progressing?

    I will tell you know that NJ is one of the hardest states to get licensed in.

    I have many years to go before I am even qualified to apply.

    However joining here will help you in the education area of the profession and you can get an office open in other states before NJ will even look at you.

    I can not tell you to join as that is a personal decision but I have not regreted joining just for the education and chance to earn money as a trainee.

    Good luck no maater what you decide.

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    Re: PI LICENSING: New Jersey

    I would like to start an LLC company because I have several good contacts and know people that would give me work. I don't have a NJ PI license, but have years of PI and Proces Serving experience. Basically, is it legal for me to start this business and not be licensed in NJ and NY? I may do mostly matrimonial and serves for my company.

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    Re: PI LICENSING: New Jersey

    i have the experience needed i filled out the application and i got my finger prints . I am LUCKY to be out of state applicant . I asked how long it takes and they said 6-8 month . You guys might want to find jobs in the mean time .

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    Re: PI LICENSING: New Jersey

    Quote Originally Posted by George Dakkak View Post
    You guys might want to find jobs in the mean time .
    Hundreds of jobs, cases, assignments, and sub-contracting agency openings for IPIU members who are current in their union dues and have Level 4 access to the following link:

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    Hi Julia,
    I see your from NJ. Can I ask where? I'm a new member to IPIU and from Jersey as well. I see you've been a member for a while now. Do you know if there is a IPIU charter group in NJ?

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    Re: PI LICENSING: New Jersey

    I recommend getting an out of state license waiting 5 years and asking if your out of state 5 year license counts as experience .

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    Quote Originally Posted by George Dakkak View Post
    I recommend getting an out of state license, waiting 5 years, and asking if your out of state 5 year license counts as experience .
    For the experience rating, that would work. Most states only require 3 years full time experience.

    Or, members of the International Private Investigators Union can upgrade their annual membership to a Lifetime Corporate Plan, and get a licensed private investigatior in their home state to sponsor them. The sponsorship program takes approximately 3-4 weeks for pre-approval of their state licenses. They can call IPIU at 406-534-0251 for details.

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    Re: PI LICENSING: New Jersey

    hello all my ipiu family i have had my corporation since 2007 looking to move to nj to be a licensed pi can someone help
    and administration what is the procedure and can u help get me licensed and do i need a sponsor and if i do can u sponsor me

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    Re: PI LICENSING: New Jersey

    This is the scoop: 5yrs. as a police officer, work for a private investigation firm and use their ID number till the time has been be a accumulated, which is ten thousand hrs. which is your qualifier. Then your app. will be sent in for board approval.

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    Re: PI LICENSING: New Jersey

    Quote Originally Posted by Rajohn A Mann View Post
    hello all my ipiu family i have had my corporation since 2007 looking to move to nj to be a licensed pi can someone help
    and administration what is the procedure and can u help get me licensed and do i need a sponsor and if i do can u sponsor me
    Rajohn, if you do not have the "earned hours" to qualify for your personal NJ PI License, then you can use your Colorado corporation to upgrade to a Lifetime Corporate Member, and ask IPIU to acquire a sponsor for you in NJ. A Lifetime Corporate Membership requires a c-corporation (which you have) as well as an upgrade in onetime dues. Once upgraded, you never have to worry about membership dues and your PI Union License will be renewed each time for free. To follow up, use the CONTACT US link at the bottom of this page, or call the office at 406-534-0251

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    Re: PI LICENSING: New Jersey

    This was an old thread. Can anyone share updates to obtain a license in NJ.

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    Re: PI LICENSING: New Jersey

    5yrs. of on the police force, work for attorney in a law frim, or a private invesigtor toll 10,000 hrs. or have been in the military as an M.P.

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    Re: PI LICENSING: New Jersey

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeffrey Barbieri View Post
    This was an old thread. Can anyone share updates to obtain a license in NJ.
    Go to Page 1 of this topic and review Post #1. All of the links to the NJ PI licensing details are still good, the statutes are still the same. And you can verify how many hours or years they require. Most regulated states start at three or more years.

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    Re: PI LICENSING: New Jersey

    so is there any pi- in new jersey in this group

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