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May K. Toney
07-15-2003, 03:05 AM
Push Made to ID Precious Doe

Previous Coverage: Little Girl Lost
Jun 9, 2002

By Hugo Kugiya
Staff Writer


With recent promises of help from some of the nation's top forensic experts, Kansas City, Mo., police say they expect Tuesday to exhume the body of the unidentified young girl known as Precious Doe, whose nude, decapitated body and severed head were found in the city's greenbelt more than two years ago.

The investigation has remained one of the most widely followed cases in Kansas City and its most painful mystery. Some residents feel that because Precious Doe is black, she has received relatively little national attention compared with missing or murdered white children such as Polly Klaas, Jon Benet Ramsey and Elizabeth Smart.

Activist Alonzo Washington said the exhumation and involvement by federal agencies is a step toward closing the disparity. "Now the case is so big in Kansas City, you'll have all kinds of groups and politicians trying to associate themselves with it," said Washington, who has used his comic book business to publicize the cases of several missing African-American children and also raised funds to offer a reward for information on the Precious Doe case.

Profilers from the FBI with expertise in child crime cases are expected to join the investigation as are scientists with the Armed Forces Institute of Pathology and a forensic anthropologist from Louisiana State University, who police said is an expert in the facial features of black victims. The Armed Forces Institute of Pathology, an agency of the Defense Department, is known for its work identifying remains of military war dead and the victims of high profile disasters such as the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attack, and the 1996 TWA Flight 800 plane crash off Long Island.

The homicide unit of the Kansas City Police Department has received and acted on almost 1,000 tips, none of which have gotten detectives any closer to identifying Precious Doe, estimated to be between 3 and 6 years old when she died. She has been linked to the cases of 10 missing girls, most recently in March to Brittany Williams, a Virginia girl.

Precious Doe is, experts said, one of about 800 children in the nation whose remains, which were found on April 28, 2001, have never been identified.

"We've learned in last two years not to be too optimistic," said city Councilman Alvin Brooks. "But this may just be what we need."
Copyright © 2003, Newsday, Inc.

Kathleen Padgett
07-15-2003, 12:30 PM
My word, what a grisly, heinous murder!! This is the kind of case that makes me want to jump in and try to solve it myself!

May K. Toney
07-15-2003, 03:54 PM
Originally posted by Kathleen Padgett
My word, what a grisly, heinous murder!! This is the kind of case that makes me want to jump in and try to solve it myself!

You are so right, Kathleen. This is quite horrible. It's also a clear sign of the times we live in and clearly indicates how much we're all needed out there. It made me realize that we're not just taking a class in the forums, we're preparing ourselves to work alongside other crime fighters. What we do and how we do our jobs does matter. Sooner or later we'll be called upon to apply what we learned here and all the skills we've gathered along the way. We can and will make a difference.

Byron Burke II
07-16-2003, 08:30 PM
I can not believe that with how much the human race has progressed that we still have animals that could do things like this to others, and to do these things to children when they are so much more defenseless is even more barbaric. If I had the money and more experience I would like to be the one who brings this animal or animals to justice.

May K. Toney
07-16-2003, 10:06 PM
Originally posted by Byron Burke II
If I had the money and more experience I would like to be the one who brings this animal or animals to justice.

Hi Byron,

I appreciate your comments. What's good to note is that the police department calls upon the "skills" of private investigative specialists here, rather than money. Of course, looking into these cases will cost. But, it's more apparent that money is no longer the primary concern here. That's one good reason why PIs are so desperately needed.

Unfortunately, the crime rate will only increase in the years to come. It's my guess, that we'll all get our chance to help bring such hideous monsters to justice.

Michael Harris
08-01-2003, 03:39 PM
Forensic anthropologists can be a great help. I learned much of what I know about forensic anthropology from the novels of Aaron Elkins.:)

Diane Jarosz
08-07-2003, 12:43 PM
What a hidious thing to do to another human being.
How horrific to treat children in a cruel manner.
Her folks have lived all these years not knowing where she is or what has happened to her.
May we all take time out of our busy schedules for a few moments of silence for ALL THE CHILDREN that are lost or dead.

Diane

Diane Jarosz
08-07-2003, 12:43 PM
What a hidious thing to do to another human being.
How horrific to treat children in a cruel manner.
Her folks have lived all these years not knowing where she is or what has happened to her.
May we all take time out of our busy schedules for a few moments of silence for ALL THE CHILDREN that are lost or dead.

Diane

Michael Harris
08-07-2003, 02:20 PM
Diane,

I just found another writer about forensic anthropology -- Kathy Reichs - who happens to be one.:) Good writer too.:)

If more bad guys knew how much evidence they leave, they might not commit so many crimes -- just a thought (or hope).:eek:

Diane Jarosz
08-07-2003, 02:42 PM
Michael,

I'm going to look up "Kathy Reichs" and read some of her writings.
Thanks for the tip!

DJ

Michael Harris
08-07-2003, 09:33 PM
Diane,

Some of the material is a little gross.:( She is a good writer and one of the very few certified forensic anthropologists in the country.:)

The series of novels by Aaron Elkins is also fun. :D You get many views of the field.:cool:

Diane Jarosz
08-08-2003, 07:36 AM
Morning Michael,

What do you mean by "gross" in reference to Reichs's writings?
Thank you for giving me Aaron Elkins name also

DJ

Michael Harris
08-08-2003, 01:17 PM
Diane,

Reich is very detailed in her descriptions of the discovery of bodies and the autopsy of them. If you are squeamish (great word), you may wish to avoid eating before reading. :eek: :o

I would not let a pre-teen read the descriptions, but most teenagers do well with gore - they are jaded. :mad: We older folks can still feel. :eek:

:) :D :cool:

Deborah Siehl
08-08-2003, 06:54 PM
Originally posted by Michael Harris
Diane,

If more bad guys knew how much evidence they leave, they might not commit so many crimes -- just a thought (or hope).:eek:

Hi Michael,

You would think the criminals would get the message (they will eventually get caught) with all the forensic shows on the air.

Deborah Siehl
08-08-2003, 07:04 PM
Hi May,

This is a sad story, and even more sad is that there are so many unsolved murders out there.

To murder someone is bad enough, but to have to decapitate them is far worse.

This kind of crime is what gets my blood boiling, an innocent child. Who would do such a horrible thing? Unfortunately, it could be our neighbor and we wouldn't know.

I hope for the parents, that the little girl's identity can be found. I have no doubt with all the forensic techniques available today, that she will be identified and her parents can finally have some closure.

Bless the little angel girl.

Deborah Siehl

Robert Smith -
08-08-2003, 07:14 PM
This is a very sad story to hear. The fact that this can happen and that the guilty party is still on the loose makes it even worse. There is no telling how far or how many more victims there will be before he/she get caught.

May K. Toney
08-08-2003, 08:17 PM
Originally posted by Deborah Siehl
I hope for the parents, that the little girl's identity can be found. I have no doubt with all the forensic techniques available today, that she will be identified and her parents can finally have some closure.

Hi Deborah, Robert,

This is indeed a tragic tale that pierces the heart.

The only thing I know about forensic techniques is what I've learned from detective shows, medical journals and unsolved murder tales like this one. But from what I've read, there's quite an array of talented problem-solvers in the investigative community. I know they'll bring closure to this case and bring this demonic killer to justice. If they don't, someone here will.