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Sara Livingston
06-18-2003, 08:34 PM
Detective to Lead Refocused Ramsey Probe:
BOULDER, Colo. - A detective was hired this week by the district attorney's office to lead the refocused JonBenet Ramsey investigation.
District Attorney Mary Keenan announced Monday that retired detective Tom Bennett, 55, would join the team later this month.
Bennett will work between 20 to 30 hours a week on the slaying of the 6-year-old, who was found strangled and beaten in the basement of her parents' Boulder home on Dec. 26, 1996.
Keenan's staff has also worked with Colorado Springs homicide detective Lou Smit, who worked with Keenan's predecessor on the case, and plans to review information gathered by private investigators hired by JonBenet's parents, John and Patsy Ramsey.
Keenan, who took over the investigation in January, has declined to discuss details of the investigation, but her public comments make clear that she wants more attention paid to the possibility that an intruder killed the child.
When Boulder police led the investigation, they said John and Patsy Ramsey were under an "umbrella of suspicion" in her death. The Ramseys have denied any involvement and were never charged.
In April, a federal judge in Atlanta said in dismissing a lawsuit against the Ramseys that there was no evidence showing the parents killed JonBenet and considerable evidence showing that an intruder killed the child. Keenan released a statement shortly afterward saying she agreed with the judge's finding that "the weight of the evidence" is more consistent with the intruder theory.
Story link:
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20030613/ap_on_re_us/ramsey_investigation_2
(Here we go again!)
Robert Smith -
06-20-2003, 03:36 AM
I would really like to know if anyone sees the point in restarting this case again. I could understand if there was new evidence or if something just happened to turn up, but I think that this case should be long gone by now. Yes I think that justice should be served to the guilty partie(s), but what makes any of these folks think that they are going to find something that wasn't found last time.
Legal Affairs
06-20-2003, 10:44 AM
Originally posted by Robert Smith
I would really like to know if anyone sees the point in restarting this case again.
Personally speaking, I think it is a waste of tax payers money.
In my view, if it ever went to court they would be found not guilty for lack of hard evidence and conspiracy theorys the defense would bring up.
Justice for the daughter will have to come from a higher "authority".
Kathleen Padgett
06-23-2003, 08:45 AM
This is a really sad case and it's disappointing that the authorities have been unable to solve this case to date or charge anyone with the crime. If this was my child, I would definitely want the case to remain open until they found and punished the killer. In CT, there was a case where the murderer was not convicted until 25 years later. Last year, Michael Skalel (a Kennedy cousin) was finally convicted and sentenced for this crime.
Deborah Siehl
06-23-2003, 10:30 PM
I had forgotten about this case. I guess since it hasn't been in the news too much.
I don't know what good this will do, how can the investigators find new evidence to point to someone else. It seems to me that any evidence that may have been overlooked in the house would be destroyed by now. I know there are some cases that are reopened after many years and evidence is found, so maybe with any luck something will turn up.
I thought this case was going towards the parents being involved somehow?
For the sake of Jon Benet I hope something turns up.
Deborah Siehl
May K. Toney
07-02-2003, 07:53 PM
This is one of the few times that I must disagree with the majority.
I'm not happy to hear that this case has resurfaced but it is good to hear that evidence now suggests an outside intruder. If it were my slain child and I had to live with the loss of my child and the defamatory statements of the press and public, I'd go quickly insane. If I ever recovered, however, I'd seek every opportunity to clear my name. The mud may never stop sliding down to my feet but I'd at least want my friends and family to know that I did not and could not slay my own child.
In my mind, the story quieted down but the parents have lived the nightmare every day. This public announcement to reopen the case may be news to us but the evidence had to surface long ago. I suspect that, when it did, the parents may have filed counter suits for defamation of character. In my mind, it would take something like that to rehash the entire case, re-examine prior evidence and publicly announce the reopening of this case. If in fact the parents are innocent of any wrong doing, it would be good to see a public recant and apology from the media and law enforcement officials.
Just my 2/5.
Mr Jose Bonavich Jr
07-09-2003, 09:09 PM
Hi everyone,
Just my opinion, but it would take a great deal of hard evidence that someone in the family was not involved in this tragedy. Though there were a number of errors by the police from the beginning, I never read/heard anything that indicated an intruder gaining entrace to the house ...of course I could be wrong about this..
Ultimately what's the point, as previously pointed out, conspiracy theories rarely provide convictions. :)
David Copeland
07-12-2003, 05:53 PM
My opinion is...
If the authorities have no real evidence to prevail with a jury, then drop it and move on.
If they do have enough evidence, or if they have enough hope of obtaining the required evidence through a Grand Jury, then okay. But let's get on with it. . . no more dragging on for 3 years.
Michael Harris
08-01-2003, 03:47 PM
This is so sad, the police either screwed up so badly or they screwed up enough to destroy the evidence and their reputations. I am heartened that PIs were involved in collecting evidence and following up on leads.
I do not believe that it was perpetrated by someone form the outside - I think a family member did it.
Gina L Hines
08-04-2003, 08:37 AM
My 2 cents worth is this ......... maybe a fresh pair of eyes is what it will take to slove this case.
Michael Harris
08-04-2003, 11:24 AM
Gina,
Two items:
(1) You may have the right idea. The case does need a new set of eyes. The fresh perspective cannot hurt.
(2) WELCOME :) :D :cool: It is nice to have you here.:D :cool: I am here to help you find some excitement and enthusiasm on you new pursuits. Again, welcome. :) :D :cool:
Gina L Hines
08-04-2003, 11:41 AM
Thanks Michael ........ I am very excited about all of this and have read a lot - can't wait to get my app. in the mail.
Thanks for your support.
Michael Harris
08-04-2003, 11:53 AM
Gina,
Remember that we are all here to help. Again, welcome and congrtulations on a wise career decision.:) :D :cool:
Melinda Cole
09-16-2003, 03:52 PM
Well, I hope I'm not opening up a can of worms here, but I am very interested in the Jon Benet Ramsey murder.
I have read every book out there trying to absorb all the details, but there are some very strange things about that case, mostly that ransom note.
To my knowledge, there has never been a ransom note that long in the history of ransom notes.
Anybody got any feedback on this??
Donna Reagan
09-17-2003, 10:31 AM
Originally posted by Melinda Cole
WellTo my knowledge, there has never been a ransom note that long in the history of ransom notes.
No, I did not know that.
(But maybe it's a "woman thing".) ;)
Melinda Cole
09-17-2003, 05:27 PM
My sentiments exactly. Actually, handwriting experts could not rule out Patsy Ramsey as the author :eek:
Melinda Cole
09-17-2003, 05:39 PM
The main problem with the Ramsey murder, was politics between the D.A., Alex Hunter, and the police dept.
Unfortunately, the most innocent victim, Jon Benet, will never have her death avenged due to politics.
In "Perfect Murder, Perfect Town", by Lawrence Schiller, there is a blip about the attorney's attending a Halloween party, and dressing up as Jon Benet!
How completely sick is that?? But we never hear that part, do we?
I personnaly believe, after reading all books on both opposing sides, and one neutral book by Lawrence Schiller, I feel the Ramsey's are involved somehow. But this case is so bizarre, nothing fits 100%.
One case in point: The supposed ransom letter said that they would call at 10:00am , but that time passed, and the Ramsey's never even mentioned that the "kidnappers" never called. I would be watching that clock every minute that went by.
Also, in the ransom letter, it states that they (kidnappers) are from a "small foreign faction", however, according to the FBI, foreign factions NEVER refer to themselves as foreign.
There are so many oddities in this case, but if indeed a parent did this, I do not believe it was intentional, I believe it was an act of rage, a crime of passion, if you will.
Cherie L. Bruni
09-21-2003, 07:11 PM
I have to agree with May on this. When the case first surfaced, I have to say, in my eyes the parents looked pretty bad. But after watching a court tv special about a month or two ago, I saw how misinformed I was. I can't remember the name of the investigator I wish to speak about. However, he was very well respected and had proven his capabilities over his 25 year career and 90% conviction rate. The man was awesome, I was completely impressed by him. He was a neutral (and new) eye to this case. He really opened up the possiblity to an intruder theory. I was someone who was very skeptical to this theory. There is no way I can translate every aspect of that show here, but alls I can say is it changed my mind. Also, if that was my child I would want that case opened and reopened for as long as it took to find who did it. I'm sure most people out there reading along with this topic that have children would agree. I agree with May's comments. If you were the parents and not guilty, you would fight until it was hopefully solved. If you were guilty, you would think you'd want it to fade away and never bring it up again.
Cherie L. Bruni
Michael Harris
09-21-2003, 10:15 PM
Melinda,
I have always felt that the parents knew a lot more than they ever acknowledged. They were probabaly involved. And they did not help the police (who did not come across as professionals) with the investigation.
Michael Harris
09-21-2003, 10:17 PM
Cherie,
I wish I had seen that detective's evidence. I cannot believe that the parents or their friends were not involved. The family never opened up.
Colleen L Hayes -
09-22-2003, 09:37 AM
I really need to unload my 2 1/2cents. Whether a family member or someone from the outside murdered JonBenet, it's worth looking into again. I agree that 'another set or two of eyes' may be what is needed. The prior investigation had 'pay off' written all over it. It may not have been, but that town isn't that big.
All I know is if it were 'me or mine' I would move heaven and hell to find out. I would try to have it re-opened as many times as possible. I couldn't imagine not trying if it were my daughter/son, niece/nephew, sister/brother, parent, spouse, aunt/uncle, etc. I just couldn't live with not trying.
This is just so sad and the type of case you hope never happens to you.
Michael Harris
09-22-2003, 11:07 AM
Colleen,
The Ramsey case was a disaster from the beginning. Parents who were not completely open with the police, police who either did not or could not do their jobs, and too much media. If anyone in my family were murdered, I would stop at nothing to see the murderer punished.
I would not hide behind lawyers or family spokespersons, I would talk to the police and press myself.
Kathleen Padgett
09-22-2003, 06:43 PM
Hi Colleen,
Well said! I appreciate the tactful and elegant way in which you pointed out that people may feel differently about continuing to investigate this case if this was a member of their own family. This rings true to me as well. I don't know who's responsible for the death, or if anyone is deliberately hiding anything or misleading others, but I feel there must still be facts which have not yet surfaced.
It must be costing a fortune to conduct this investigation, but any unsolved murder should remain open and active whenever possible in my opinion (especially when it involves a child).
Michael Harris
09-22-2003, 07:20 PM
Hi Kathie,
I have not crossed threads with you for a while. I am glad to see you in this issue.
The thought of an open case like this bothers me. It should not have been this hard. There are lessons in this for the police, parents, and investigators. I hate to learn from other people's tragedies, but it may prevent one of my own. :( :(
Kathleen Padgett
09-22-2003, 07:34 PM
Hi Michael,
I've been busy with many other things:) It's nice to cross threads with you again as well.
The thought of an open case like this bothers me also. This is somebody's innocent child... it's difficult to imagine the particulars involved in this investigation and I hesitate to judge anyone's performance without understanding all the details. I'd just prefer to see this case remain open until the killer is found and prosecuted. In my opinion, killers need not be at large and everything possible should be done to prevent that from happening;)
Michael Harris
09-22-2003, 07:43 PM
Kathie,
If the killer was a molester or some other sexual predator, then he will most certainly kill again.
If it was a burglary gone bad (unlikely), then there may be no more violence.
If it was a kidnapping gone bad, then more will die.
If it was about the father or his business dealings, who knows how many more innocents are in danger. :(
Kathleen Padgett
09-22-2003, 08:03 PM
Hi Michael,
The uncertainty of who this person is and what their capabilities are is alarming. Here's hoping someone steps up to the plate and does the right thing in terms of telling the investigators everything they know. Someone out there knows the truth and somebody got away with murder:(
Michael Harris
09-23-2003, 08:44 AM
Kathie,
We see cold cases solved all the time, but those usually involve physical evidence that could not be analyzed or evaluated at the time of the crime, e.g., DNA.
The Ramsey case had all of today's forensic tools. What is missing? Was there interference in the case? Or was it simply incompetence that lost or overlooked the key to the case?
Maybe a fresh set of eyes will do the trick. That is how I make my living - being that fresh set of eyes.:D
Kathleen Padgett
09-23-2003, 06:06 PM
Hi Michael,
The only people that may know the answer to that question are probably the investigators assigned to the case. They may be stumped, I'm not clear on the truth here. The details of cases are guarded and the media may think they know the story, but the facts are yet to be finalized and/or announced. The facts come forth during the trial, not during the news coverage. ;)
Michael Harris
09-23-2003, 11:15 PM
Kathie,
I just finished two final exams - both had multiple-choice questions (1.5 hours and 1.75 hours) and both had essays (4 pages and 5 pages).
I am tested out. I looked back on the Attica riot of 1971 and realized that the truth of that was hidden for years - government incompetence.
I suppose that truth of the Ramsey case will be hidden until a trail if there is one. The truth is on the inside, not in the media. You were right on that one.
Kathleen Padgett
09-24-2003, 05:50 PM
Hi Michael,
Congratulations on finishing your test.
With any luck, skill or cooperation the Ramsey case will go to trial eventually, just don't like the idea of a child killer free at large.
I definitely will not assume investigative incompetence, I try not to draw too many conclusions without all the facts;)
Michael Harris
09-24-2003, 10:35 PM
Kathie,
In October, I have Legal Ethics and Criminology. The criminology might help. :rolleyes:
Colleen L Hayes -
10-07-2003, 03:48 AM
Kathie and Michael,
I want to say 'hi' to you both. I am so glad you feel the same as I on the Ramsey case. No matter who, what or why, there is still a crime unsolved. There has to be leads that no one has followed, evidence unchecked, etc. I would gladly work on this one free of charge. There is a murderer out there that will surely murder again, unless it was a family member, then why bother if the job was done the first time!!!!!
It was nice talking with both of you.
Michael Harris
10-11-2003, 08:42 PM
Colleen,
You are right. There is still a crime unsolved; a little girl's death unpunished.
There is another side to this. Why was the case so messed up?
I got a hint at a possible answer today. I am reading an Alex Delaware novel by Jonathan Kellerman called Private Eyes. I only read 300 pages of the 525 pages today so I do not have all the facts, but I noticed something about the local police in the story. The police do only one thing well - they can spot strangers and chase them out of town. They are good enough for the things that happen in town all the time. They have no clue how to solve the mystery that is facing them. They are not bad police, just not up to solving the crime at hand.
I think this is the kind of thing that happened with the Ramsey killing. The police were inexperienced and unprepared. They messed up the basics of investigation. It will take a real professional to un-mess the case.
Sunya N. Nardo
10-11-2003, 11:26 PM
It's so sad to hear that this case went unsolved for so long. I agree with a members statment on this thread about getting a new pair of eyes and re-doing the entire case again. Lets put our tax payers money to good use and solve this case. (For the sake of this little inncoent child)
I would rather pay my tax money to solve this case instead of using it foolish, like putting rumble strips in Hawaii to slow traffic for several months then ripping it out. (Wasteful) Forensic Science would be good for this case and this is just my opinion stated here. I haven't heard about this case for a long time, but she will never be forgotten.........
Aloha,
:)
Angela Virgo -
10-13-2003, 02:31 PM
Originally posted by Sunya N. Nardo
It's so sad to hear that this case went unsolved for so long. I agree with a members statment on this thread about getting a new pair of eyes and re-doing the entire case again. Lets put our tax payers money to good use and solve this case. (For the sake of this little inncoent child)
I would rather pay my tax money to solve this case instead of using if foolish, like putting rumble strips in Hawaii to slow traffic for several months then ripping it out. (Wasteful) Forensic Science would be good for this case and this is just my opinion stated here. I haven't heard about this case for a long time, but she will never be forgotten.........
Aloha,
:)
:( A fresh pair of eyes is all great. Mostly I think that as time goes on people let their guard down and perhaps disclose evidence that they had previously suppressed:mad:
Sunya N. Nardo
10-13-2003, 06:58 PM
Aloha! Angela,
Your right! I guess as time passes we do put down our guards. Well only time will tell if this case will be solved or unsolved mysteries.
Aloha,
Kristen Godot
11-03-2003, 09:13 PM
Here's a thought, I wonder if anyone has ever considered the possibility that this could somehow have a connection with the Elizabeth Smart kidnapping in Utah. They are only one state away and yes Elizabeth survived, but who's to say that her captor didn't decide to spare a life this time around to avoid detection or similiarity?:confused: Could be relevant or irrelevant, but I was just thinking in terms of young children and location. I truely hope that this cold case does have an answer some day definately for the family but also so that this person can pay for taking an innocent child's life.
Kristen Godot :)
Tina M Phillips
01-06-2004, 03:00 AM
I have to comment on this case. Maybe there is more in the news as far as an update, but I'll stay at the subject at hand for now.
I have always felt that what was presented was "bad" policing or investigating. I think the police in this case were intimidated by the Ramseys because they were prominent citizens in the community.
I flat out feel the parents were involved asomehow.
I think many people feel the same and without opening up a can a worms or to intentionally change the subject: There was never a conviction for Nicol Brown's death (O.J's ex-wife) and there may never be one for JonBenet Ramsey.
It's a shame, but some cases seem to be "locked" until there's real breakthrough.
My 4 cents added!!
;) ;)
Mary A Young -
01-06-2004, 12:59 PM
To me the investigation was totally botched. And as long as it is unsolved, it needs to remain open for new information if there is any.
I believe that the parents knew more than they were telling. Did one of them go down in the basement and actually do it? I don't know. But I have always felt that someone was protecting someone in this case....perhaps the brother.
Of course, while he wasn't the sweet innocent 6 year old that Jon Benet was, I still think that it would be good to find what really happened to Jimmy Hoffa.
Mary
Sunya N. Nardo
01-06-2004, 02:23 PM
Aloha!
Maybe a psychic like Sylvia Brown can help with this case. She helped in alot of police investigations before and was very accurate and successful.
Cases like this especially when it involves a child shouldn't be "locked" or go "unsolved"....
This is just my couple cents I wanted to add.
Mahalo,
Michael Harris
01-06-2004, 03:09 PM
Mary,
Jimmy Hoffa is in the Jersey Pine Barrens in Jackson Township just off the NJ Parkway.:rolleyes:
Dragos Sfinteanu
01-07-2004, 11:21 PM
Michael,
I did not follow-up too close this case. Consequently I am asking a basic, the idiot's question (the first question asked to himself by Hercules Poirot when investigating a crime): Who (if any) could be named as a possible beneficiary of the girl's death? (I am asking for your opinion).
Mary A Young -
01-07-2004, 11:52 PM
Originally posted by Michael Harris
Mary,
Jimmy Hoffa is in the Jersey Pine Barrens in Jackson Township just off the NJ Parkway.:rolleyes:
Michael, I had heard that he was hiding out here near Fox Island in Allen County Indiana.
But if that isn't him, it HAS to be Elvis!
Back at ya! :p
Mary
Michael Harris
01-08-2004, 10:02 AM
Dragos,
That is a good question. However, Hercules Poirot was looking into murders that had motive. If, the crime were simply an accident, no one benefits from the death. In this case, who benefits from obscuring the cause and the perpetrator.
I am convinced that the death was an accident that did not look accidental. I believe that the parents deliberately contaminated the crime scene and mislead the police.
A family member was responsible for the death of young Miss Ramsey. And the parents are protecting a family member. There is an underlying crime, one that led to the accidental death. However, a predicate felony would make the accidental death a felony.
Dragos Sfinteanu
01-08-2004, 04:19 PM
Michael,
I think Hercules Poirot would have had the same opinion as yours.
BY the way, both District Attorney and Jon Bennet's parents hired PI to investigate the crime. There will be two conclusions, rather than one, I presume...
Michael Harris
01-08-2004, 06:54 PM
Dragos,
I suspect one implicated the family and one exonerated the family. This approach has been used successfully on Law and Order.
I am watching the clock, there is an episode of CSI on in 6 minutes that I have not seen. :eek: :o :rolleyes: :p ;)
Pardon my small show of emotion.
Dragos Sfinteanu
01-08-2004, 10:40 PM
Michael,
It is perfectly understandable. Have a good time at CSI episode.
Michael Harris
01-09-2004, 12:42 PM
Dragos,
A dead juror - the only holdout. No one but the other jurors (smal field of suspects). The forensic evidence was crucial and several visits to the crime scene were needed.
It pointed out that you might not find everything the first time, that there might need to be a trigger to help you think about and find the key piece of evidence.
It was worth watching. :) :D :cool:
B Ann Craig
01-09-2004, 03:36 PM
Michael, that was a very good one, peanut butter, and all. ;)
Have a wonderful weekend. Take care. :)
Michael Harris
01-09-2004, 03:47 PM
Ann,
It is nice to be back in the forums crossing threads with all the nice people.
The peanut butter was a good ploy.
I had a friend in college who was deathly allergic to peanuts. She had a professor in one of her senior checmistry courses who appealed to her (physically, romantically, you get the picture). One day in the lab he came over to her to talk and she smelled the peanut butter on his breath and lost her ardor. :(
B Ann Craig
01-09-2004, 11:08 PM
Michael, that was bad. We don't want to get off topic here. I hope they will solve this case. Too much has been missed from the begining. :(
Have a wonderful weekend. Take care. :)
Lori Ross
02-08-2004, 09:43 AM
While doing my BA in San Diego the terrible case of Jon Bennet captured me and many to help solve this one. As I continued on with my MS in Criminal Justice I continued to research and compile my own discoveries about this case.
First, the situation where the little girl lived at the time of her death was opportunistic and by that I mean, it was a perfect time for a predator to get into the ho
B Ann Craig
02-11-2004, 08:58 AM
Summer, I am glad to hear that you have focused on this case. I would love to have this case solved. Maybe one day it will be.
Have a wonderful week. Take care. :)
Jerry Woytas
02-11-2004, 09:48 AM
I think the entire case on JonBenet Ramsey was so blotched by the Boulder police. I would be pleased to see the murderer of this small child caught and the proper punishment administered.
JeryLyn
Daphane Davis
02-15-2004, 07:47 PM
This is a relatively old case and an older posting... however, I guess comments can still be added.
I think that this case would do well on "Unsolved Mystery's" or "Closed FBI files", but what Im not sure of is whether the real murderer will ever surface. If new evidence has been found then I think the case should be reopened, but if no vital evidence can be produced then we should let the victim and her family rest.
Debra Lewis -
02-23-2004, 05:09 PM
i used to live in denver area...so my friends would tell me particulars of the case, as they heard or read about it...
i have always thought that the piano has the evidence...i was told a piano wire was used to strangle jon benet...
if that is true, there are two things that are very strange...
A: no one typically has an extra piano wire string laying around in thir home, and
B: a piano wire string is difficult to obtain, even from a piano tuner...
(i have broken a string while playing the piano, and you don't just go to the store to get a piano string...they are a special order item)
and you order it speciffically for the note that needs to be replaced...
pianos have 3 strings per each high note
and i believe one string for each bass note...
so if there is either a missing string on that piano, or a very new string...this means the string could have been intentionally removed from the piano in a premediated willful fashion...
it takes a lot to remove the casing, then clip a wire piano string...
(furthermore, if a string is missing; or replaced and new, and there are no other fingerprints besides Mr. and Mrs. Ramsey...then something is dead wrong )
but of course all that is contingent on whether or not a piano string was involved...maybe it was hearsay, and not true at all...
but, if a piano string was involved...
a piano tuner needs to check for a missing or replaced string...
and
does the thickness of the missing/replaced string match the one that was used on jon benet?
and someone needs to check for supperfluous fingerprints, (especially on the clip and top where the front wood is pulled off to access the strings...)
that's my 2 cents and some change...
Dragos Sfinteanu
02-23-2004, 11:11 PM
Debra,
If true, this detail (!) could represent an object of investigation worthy of Sherlock Holmes or Hercules Poirot. It would be a sophistication peak in criminology, starting with: "Why a piano string?" There are, a least, a hundred ways before this one.
Brice Prude
02-24-2004, 03:02 AM
well all I can say is that I hope this detective has more luck than the previous had .It's a shame that so much time has passed by and law enforcement officials are no where closer than before,but I would like closure in this case.
Debra Lewis -
02-24-2004, 11:04 AM
if it's true that a piano string was used on jon benet, i sure would like to be there with the paino tuner to translate to the piano tuner what to look for...and then translate that to the PI...
(but it would need to be a piano tuner that knows how to tune pianos and how to fix pianos)
maybe it wouldn't be so much sherlock holmes, as it would be the simple guy (piano tuner) with the intrinsic knowledge of the instrument that can identify the anomaly
it's the anomaly that could help crack the case
Dragos Sfinteanu
02-24-2004, 12:08 PM
Debra,
Sherlock Holmes wore many hats. Among other, he was a piano tuner... He was a master in springs (playing Paganini, when thinking about a crime investigation) :)
Debra Lewis -
02-24-2004, 05:43 PM
thanks for that!
and i always thought Sherlock only wore that checkered houndstooth hat...
i love paganini...
could this mean i have potential?
Dragos Sfinteanu
02-24-2004, 07:23 PM
Debra,
Of course, you have it. Beyond that, being also a musician, you will be able to pick-up the "false notes" when investigating, i.e.: discussing, interviewing, etc. (all kidding let aside!). :cool:
Debra Lewis -
02-27-2004, 03:55 PM
in reading other posts, i now realize that PI work is done for the defense...
previously, i had thought PI work could be done for either defense or prosecution...
oops...
my previous posts are really more for the prosecution...
John W Tuthill -
03-11-2004, 03:24 PM
How did that little girl get from her upstairs bed room to the basement,she must have known who took her there. Un less she was drugged or killed in her bed room and taken to the basement.
I'm for the parents and always have been,they act to strange not to be involed.
William H Van Meter
03-22-2004, 05:17 PM
I just got done reading this forum and there is a lot of ideas and speculation. The only person who would knows exactly what happen is the person who done it and the Supreme Being. But I agree with John, how did she get downstaris from her bedroom. There was (according to the reports) no struggle. So she had to know or was drugged by the person who did it. All we can do it look into the facts and make up our minds. Right now I am waiting to see what comes from the next round of events.
B Ann Craig
07-21-2004, 03:04 PM
How did that little girl get from her upstairs bed room to the basement,she must have known who took her there. Un less she was drugged or killed in her bed room and taken to the basement.
I'm for the parents and always have been,they act to strange not to be involed.
John, she was carried there in her comfort/bedspread from her bed.
Have a wonderful week. Take care. :)
B Ann Craig
07-21-2004, 03:11 PM
Has anything new been heard about this case? I have my own ideas on this case, but will leave them unsaid for now. One problem with solving this case, is having a closed mind.
Have a wonderful week. Take care. :)
Thomas Campora
07-23-2004, 04:51 PM
Hello everyone. Well i might as well put my two cents worth in. I think that no murder case should be put to rest until the guilty party is found. True this may never happen, but you have to try if for nothing else than for the sake of the victim. A new set of eyes and some fresh thought just might spark some new ideas into a case and cause people to look down some new paths of interest. True this case is old but out there some evidence exists and certainly some knows who did it
Linda J Rowe
07-23-2004, 06:35 PM
I agree with you Thomas, what one may miss another may see. I also feel that if ones ideas don't work another might. If I can't figure it out right a way I will try new ways to look at things and try to solve from all angles. And there is always a lot of different angles.
B Ann Craig
08-02-2004, 03:25 AM
Thomas and Linda, I totally agree. You have to totally think out of the box. Someone, or someones know all the information, and will slip up in time.
Have a wonderful week. Take care. :)
Bob Kosin
08-30-2004, 02:18 PM
I would really like to know if anyone sees the point in restarting this case again. I could understand if there was new evidence or if something just happened to turn up, but I think that this case should be long gone by now. Yes I think that justice should be served to the guilty partie(s), but what makes any of these folks think that they are going to find something that wasn't found last time. I hope you don't really feel that way Robert. I know if it was my daughter, I would want the case re-opened and re-opened every day of the week....Bob
Kimberly Cox
09-03-2004, 11:59 AM
Regardless of what's already been identified as evidence in this case, there is still someone out there who knows something, or may have seen something that they don't realize is pertinent to this investigation.
Does this mean we should reopen the investigation?? Hmmm, imagine yourself in JonBenet's shoes... or grave, wouldn't you want someone to get to the bottom of it? Somewhere, someone out there knows what happened that night. I only hope that the truth surfaces soon.
April Rank
09-06-2004, 02:20 PM
As someone who used to cover crime news I wish I could say that we media people only report what information is provided to us and what we are able to turn up by research....
However, I am sorry to say that too often I have noticed some people in the career have the power to leave out certain material provided or pick and choose what they want to say. Which can paint a picture the way they want it to look.
This goes against everything we were taught. What I find hard to believe is when all these competing journalists seem to be reading from the same page.
In my experience, we did not conspire to slant a story a certain way. And I was never told to slant a story a certain way. But that is just the two daily papers I worked for.
I cannot help but feel I see slanted news in the major medias. I see them violating ethics we were taught against, and doing it regularly.
I would hope that the media did not help the purpetrator in this case. But, they very well may have...
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