View Full Version : Cosmetics Heir Captured by Bounty Hunter
Sara Livingston
06-18-2003, 08:09 PM
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Andrew Luster, the fugitive (news - Y! TV) heir of the Max Factor cosmetics fortune and a convicted rapist, is escorted into a van by Mexican police officers inside Puerto Vallarta's Police headquarters after he was arrested in the Mexican beach resort of Puerto Vallarta, June 18, 2003. Luster, who jumped a US$1 million bail, was arrested after being apprehended by a U.S. bounty hunter, who was also arrested.
Story link:
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ct/20030618/cr_ct/lusterlassoedbydoggedbountyhunter
(The bounty hunter was arrested for capturing the fugitive???)
Andrew Luster, the fugitive (news - Y! TV) rapist and cosmetics heir who skipped out on his trial in January, was apprehended in a Puerto Vallarta nightclub by bounty hunter Duane "Dog" Chapman. Hours later, Mexican police tossed both men in jail, said a Chapman colleague.
"They got him," said Beth Smith, who works with the Honolulu-based bounty hunter. "Duane was taking him to a more secure location and the local cops grabbed him."
A spokesperson with the FBI (news - web sites)'s Los Angeles bureau confirmed that Luster was being held in Puerto Vallarta by Mexican authorities and said a legal attache was working toward an extradition.
Luster, great-grandson of cosmetics king Max Factor, skipped town after his prospects at trial grew bleak: One victim had already testified about the alleged abuses, and the jury was about to view a videotape labeled "Shauna GHBing." That label may be a reference to the date rape drug, gamma hydroxybutyrate, or GHB, that Luster was accused of using.
Luster fled with his dog, later found at his mother's, in his Toyota 4-Runner, which was found last week.
With Luster on the run, and Chapman on his trail, the trial continued. Luster, 39, was convicted in absentia of 86 counts, including multiple rape charges connected to assaults in 1996, 1997 and 2000. Police say he videotaped sexual romps with unconscious women after drugging them with the date rape drug GHB.
Fleeing his crumbling case certainly didn't help Luster's chances at an appeal. Last week, an appellate court struck down an appeal by his attorney, Roger Diamond, who has said in published reports that his client's return will nonetheless reinvigorate his appeal chances.
Diamond could take Luster's case to the California Supreme Court, where he could face an uphill battle.
"I think he's blown his chances at the appeal," said Laurie Levenson, a professor at Loyola Law School in Los Angeles. "You can't have it both ways. You can't seek the benefits of an appeal but not subject yourself to the punishment."
A spokesperson with the U.S. State Department told Courttv.com that the FBI would likely broker Luster's extradition to the United States. The State Department would handle any charges facing bounty hunter Chapman, which could include kidnapping Luster.
While Ventura authorities employed conventional methods, Chapman used private investigator techniques, such as shadowing Luster's mother, Elizabeth Luster, who had her son's dog.
Chapman shortened his leash on Luster — he estimated that he was five days behind the fugitive's trail when he began — when he found Luster's ditched SUV in Santa Monica, Calif.
Boasting 6,000 successful captures, Chapman had his eye on Mexico as early as January. "All these rich guys have their hole in the wall," he said. "There's always a place where they think there's no cops."
Chapman said that, in Mexico, money talks. Resort employees and local residents often respond to one timeless tactic: Handing a potential tipster half of a torn hundred-dollar bill, and promising the other half when their tips pay off.
A Puerto Vallarta newspaper reporter, Angela Corelis, said that fugitive take-downs are commonplace in the resort town. "Once a week they pick someone up down here," said Corelis. "They get drunk and cry about [what they did] in bars."
The fee from the bail bond company for Luster's capture may have spurred the Honolulu-based Chapman in his chase, but the man hunter told Courttv.com in January that he wasn't in it for the money.
"I'm a bounty hunter, this is the number one fugitive in America, and I'm on his ***," Chapman said. "This one has become personal. If one of the victims comes up to me and says, 'Dog, thank you,' that's it, I'm paid."
Kathleen Padgett
06-19-2003, 11:38 AM
I hope they release the bounty hunter, who seems like he should be rewarded for his efforts, rather than arrested.
RoseAnn Weingart
06-19-2003, 12:39 PM
I'm with you Kathleen, he should be rewarded, and also have the charges dropped considering the circumstances. Money is the root of all evil, but justice prevails!
William Brassfield
06-19-2003, 04:29 PM
Originally posted by Kathleen Padgett
I hope they release the bounty hunter, who seems like he should be rewarded for his efforts, rather than arrested.
Well, you know what they say: "No good deed goes unpunished." :(
...The State Department would handle any charges facing bounty hunter Chapman, which could include kidnapping Luster....
I hope they do. :D
Jeremy D Maurer -
06-19-2003, 05:25 PM
He got arrested because Bounty Hunting in Mexico is against their law. It sucks, but it is their law. I hope the charges get dropped and hope he still gets paid his money.
Robert Smith -
06-20-2003, 03:25 AM
This has really got to suck. I hope that the Bounty Hunter gets released and paid as well.
Malcolm Rheuban
06-20-2003, 03:02 PM
According to what I read, Luster and the bounty hunters were originally put in jail for fighting; " Mexican police responding to reports of a brawl early Wednesday caught up with the bounty hunters and took Luster and his captors into custody."
However, the complication is that although Luster is a wanted fugitive of the United States living in Mexico, bounty hunting is equal to kidnapping on Mexican soil; " Bounty hunter Duane “Dog” Chapman and four associates, including Chapman’s son and grandson, remained in custody in Mexico, where bounty hunting is considered kidnapping."
Linda Manning
06-21-2003, 10:01 AM
http://www.dogthebountyhunter.com/dog_center.jpg
Duane Chapman's Website (http://www.dogthebountyhunter.com/)
He will earn a bounty of about $200,000 (10-15% of the bail).
Apparently he was arrested for tackling the suspect on a public street and attempting to take him out of Mexico without first going through the local police authorities.
William R. Larson -
06-21-2003, 10:10 AM
Boy, he doesn't look like the type of dude I'd want on my tail!
I'd just as soon be working wide by side! :cool:
Edwina Berlijn -
06-21-2003, 03:46 PM
Yes I agree, I hate to be not on his side, Duane "Dog" Chapman...I find it rather ironic...that, they arrest Duane for capturing a criminal fugative of the US, and when a Mexican goes to the US, and kills a "cop" and then flees back to his country (Mexico), the US is unable to grab the man to stand trial in the US for killing the cop! The Mexican authorities are not willing to hand the man over to the US.
The FBI should be thankfull, that Duane got the man..Luster, it should have made their job lot easier!!! Maybe there pride got hurt???
edwina berlijn
B Ann Craig
06-21-2003, 03:54 PM
He reminds me of Paladin in "Have Gun Will Travel". I bet when he was a kid, he watched this show. http://www.hgwt.com/boone1a.jpg Have Gun Will Travel (http://www.hgwt.com/flash.html)
I loved to watch the show. Does anyone remember the show? ;)
This problem with Mexico has been the same from the old days. :( It would be nice for a change to happen. :)
May K. Toney
06-29-2003, 04:47 AM
This is a sad tale for sure. First, there's a rich young man living the life and set to inherit a fortune. Yet he apparently has no other aspirations in life but to drug, abuse and videotape his assaults on women. Second, the man that apprehends him (and probably saved other potential victims) is arrested along with the culprit. I don't want to stereotype anyone but Mexico doesn't have a good public image on crime control, honest government or law enforcement. It's just a guess but maybe that's why Chapman chose not to let them in on his mission (if that is indeed the case). I hope justice prevails here and only the criminal pays the price.
William, I'm with you! This guy looks like Chuck Norris and we all know how he responds to crime and criminals. I wouldn't want any breach with the law ever - least of all with Chapman.
By the way, B. Ann, my mother ruled in our house and she loved Half Gun Will Travel. So, guess what the children grew up watching whenever it aired? :)
Kathleen Padgett
06-30-2003, 09:14 AM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by May K. Toney
Mexico doesn't have a good public image on crime control, honest government or law enforcement.
That's for sure!!
Terry-Lin K Gonzales
07-01-2003, 05:45 AM
:confused: Mr Chapman and his Ohana (family) are good people some members of my family has delt with the Chapman's and recieved the help they needed. I am praying for their release real soon. and when the man says thank you is his payment you best believe he's telling the truth. he is a hero for helping to capture a person who has hurt so many. also Mr. Chapman has daughters. so one can only imagine why he set out with all his heart to get this person behind bars where he belongs
Edwina Berlijn -
07-01-2003, 04:39 PM
I agree with you Kathie
Edwina Berlijn
B Ann Craig
07-05-2003, 01:00 PM
Originally posted by May K. Toney
This is a sad tale for sure. First, there's a rich young man living the life and set to inherit a fortune. Yet he apparently has no other aspirations in life but to drug, abuse and videotape his assaults on women. Second, the man that apprehends him (and probably saved other potential victims) is arrested along with the culprit. I don't want to stereotype anyone but Mexico doesn't have a good public image on crime control, honest government or law enforcement. It's just a guess but maybe that's why Chapman chose not to let them in on his mission (if that is indeed the case). I hope justice prevails here and only the criminal pays the price.
William, I'm with you! This guy looks like Chuck Norris and we all know how he responds to crime and criminals. I wouldn't want any breach with the law ever - least of all with Chapman.
By the way, B. Ann, my mother ruled in our house and she loved Half Gun Will Travel. So, guess what the children grew up watching whenever it aired? :)
May, your mother has good taste. ;)
I agree with you, and William, Chapman does look like Chuck Norris. ;)
Have a safe weekend. :)
Carolynne Giffoni -
07-09-2003, 02:23 PM
I believe that justice will prevail with a little help from the State Dept. and "Dog" will be fine. The publicity certainly took him to a national level and that will help his endeavors in the future. Although he may have to disguise himself a little now that his photo has appeared.....that's the downside.
Just my opinion....;)
Carolynne
Michael Harris
08-02-2003, 10:44 PM
Originally posted by B Ann Craig
He reminds me of Paladin in "Have Gun Will Travel". I bet when he was a kid, he watched this show. http://www.hgwt.com/boone1a.jpg Have Gun Will Travel (http://www.hgwt.com/flash.html)
I loved to watch the show. Does anyone remember the show? ;)
Ann,
That was a great show. :) :D :cool:
Michael Harris
08-02-2003, 10:46 PM
Lusster in a few beers short of a six pack.
The bounty hunter should be okay. There is always a risk of over-zealous cops. :eek:
Michael Harris
08-02-2003, 10:50 PM
Duane Chapman looks like the kind of friend we all would like to have. I checked in on a web site for some 'fugitive recovery agents' in North Jersey. They all looked like this, except:
1-bigger
2-meaner looking
3-flak jackets
4-knee pads
5-helmets
6-batons and mace
7-too many guns
:eek: :rolleyes:
Rod Elliott
08-02-2003, 11:16 PM
Great old show and Richard Boone was perfect for the part. Hey he even had a business card!
Rod
Michael Harris
08-02-2003, 11:47 PM
Rod,
Do you remember his first holster? I think it ws the first show. :cool:
Rod Elliott
08-03-2003, 12:39 AM
Wow, what a question. Nope, can't say as I do. That's like asking me his horse's name. I just checked that out, it was Rafter. Did his holster have a Knight on the side, like his business card?
Rod
B Ann Craig
08-03-2003, 07:04 AM
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Ann,
That was a great show. :) :D :cool:
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Originally posted by Michael Harris
Duane Chapman looks like the kind of friend we all would like to have.
I want him on my side!
You can tell by his look, that "he will get the job done, in his time frame"!
:D :cool: ;) :)
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Originally posted by Rod Elliott
Great old show and Richard Boone was perfect for the part.
Hey he even had a business card!
Yes, Rod, he sure did.
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Originally posted by Michael Harris
Do you remember his first holster? I
think it ws the first show.
:cool:
Michael, he sure did. Our Rook. ;)
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Originally posted by Rod Elliott
That's like asking me his horse's name.
I just checked that out, it was Rafter.
Rod, I loved his horse! ;)
Rafter
http://www.hgwt.com/gen6.jpg
Now our man sure looks like Paladin.
I bet that is were he got the idea of all "black"!
Have a wonderful weekend. Take care. :)
Michael Harris
08-03-2003, 07:38 AM
Good Morning Ann
Thanks for the images of Paladin! :cool:
pal·a·din (p²l“…-d¹n) n. 1. A paragon of chivalry; a heroic champion.
Michael Harris
08-03-2003, 07:41 AM
Rod,
Paladin was trapped by an honorable 'bad guy' and gave Paladin time to fix is holster.
The original holster was soft leather with a large flap - an officer's holster for the 1860's. Paladin cut it down (removed the flap) and hardened the leather . He made the new one so that he could draw guickly. :cool:
B Ann Craig
08-03-2003, 07:45 AM
Thank you, Michael. Good morning, to you, too! :D
Did you know that, Paladin, is another name for the Rook, the Knight? :cool:
Have a wonderful weekend. Take care. :)
Michael Harris
08-03-2003, 07:51 AM
Ann,
Good morning, I enjoy crossing threads with you.
Yes, I knew that. I just wanted to use my American Heritage Dictionary, the one I keep loaded on my computer. :cool:
B Ann Craig
08-03-2003, 08:06 AM
Yes, Michael, crossing threads is really neat. :cool:
I use my Dictionary all the time. It sure gets a work out, but mine is on line. ;)
Have a wonderful weekend. Take care. :)
Kathleen Padgett
08-06-2003, 07:23 AM
I just watched an interview with Dog Chapman and his girlfriend, Beth on Good Morning America this morning. A judge has ruled he will not be entitled to collect any of the bail money as bounty due to the apparent violation of Mexican law and vigilanty behavior, per the judge's order. It's unfortunate this worked out this way, given the expenses Dog must have incurred during the "chase" and to receive no reward for the capture of this arrogant rapist seems somewhat unfair.
I was impressed with Dog and Beth's professionalism throughout this ordeal, as they obviously do not harbor resentment toward the judge, care about the victims, and respect the decision of the court. Both were well spoken and respectful of all parties involved. In addition, Dog is proud of having placed this criminal behind bars where he cannot continue to harm women, definitely compassionate and deserving of credit. He also stated he did this for the victims and if he had received any money, he would have given some to the victims if they had come up empty handed.
Dog is attempting to have a documentary produced and I look forward to the release of this story. I hope the documentary produces some much deserved income for Dog and all the victims who were violated.
Michael Harris
08-06-2003, 10:12 AM
Good Morning Kathie,
I wish I had known about the interview, I would have watched.:(
Dog seems like he has his act together, but I am not so sure about the judge. I am gaining a new perspective on judges now that I am taking criminal justice classes.
Judges in the US have too much discretionary power, and too many abuse it.
In NJ, the bounty is an issue between the surety and the bail bondsman, the judge has no say in the matter.
Rod Elliott
08-06-2003, 10:50 AM
Originally posted by Michael Harris
Rod,
Paladin was trapped by an honorable 'bad guy' and gave Paladin time to fix is holster.
The original holster was soft leather with a large flap - an officer's holster for the 1860's. Paladin cut it down (removed the flap) and hardened the leather . He made the new one so that he could draw guickly. :cool:
Michael,
An honerable bad guy, Eh? There is not many of them around, then, and especially now. Thanks for sharing the story, somehow I missed your reply until now.
Rod
Michael Harris
08-06-2003, 11:14 AM
Hi Rod,
Sometimes I remember the strangest things.:eek: I guess they are the ones that will appear much later in life and mean something.:cool:
Kathleen Padgett
08-06-2003, 11:20 AM
Hi Michael,
It was definitely an interesting interview, sorry you missed it:(
Maybe they will replay it... or at least parts of it on the evening news, you know how the media likes to repeat things, lol.
Dog does seem to be very professional and appears to have his act together, for sure.
I understand your feelings on the actions of some judges. In the state of NH, the selection of judges has come up as an issue for quite some time. Judges here are appointed, often due to their status as friends of the governor, rather than values or accomplishments, hopefully that will change in the future.
Judges are appointed and serve a life time in this state. Some are very open minded and consider all the facts carefully, realizing their decisions are critical and impact can be devastating to the plaintiff, victim or defendant, depending on the type of case, while others tend to jump to conclusions and allow personal biases, lack of experience and opinions to guide their decisions. Unfortunately, I've heard many prosecutors and lawyers state that the outcome depends on who happens to be on the bench that day, which is sad in my opinion.
One statement Dog made with regard to the judge is that he is disappointed in the ruling and confused as to why he was told he was to be commended for his feat, so to speak, by the same judge the last time he appeared on this matter. I'm sure more information will become available on this decision, as it's sure to make headline news.
Michael Harris
08-06-2003, 11:25 AM
Kathie,
And maybe this judge will be asked to step down. :confused: :( :rolleyes:
Kathleen Padgett
08-06-2003, 11:27 AM
Hi Michael,
Ya never know, guess it depends on the appeal, if allowed or filed?
Michael Harris
08-06-2003, 01:04 PM
Kathie,
We can all pray for justice - the real kind.:) :D :cool:
Kathleen Padgett
08-06-2003, 02:08 PM
Hi Michael,
Absolutely:D I have a feeling Dog will not give up:)
Michael Harris
08-06-2003, 04:32 PM
Kathie,
The good guys should never give up.;) If there is a way to help Dog, I would. :) Does anyone have any ideas? :confused:
Kathleen Padgett
08-07-2003, 07:20 AM
Michael,
I thought you might appreciate a link to Dog's site...
http://www.dogthebountyhunter.com/
A lot of interesting info there:) Kind of fun to check out.
Michael Harris
08-07-2003, 09:16 AM
Good Morning Kathie,
I checked out Dog's website.:rolleyes: Thanks for the link. :)
There is some real hype, but the guy turned his life around. :cool:
RoseAnn Weingart
08-07-2003, 06:37 PM
Well said Kathie. I too was watching Good Morning America, when they were on. I am glad that he was cleared even though he did not receive just reward. Sometimes when you are good and go over the line, which I am sure he knew what he did, you have to expect some repercussions. I am still glad he caught him, and at least the reward will go to the victims. His life has really turned around for the better!
GO DOG!
Michael Harris
08-07-2003, 08:59 PM
Originally posted by RoseAnn Weingart
Well said Kathie. His life has really turned around for the better! GO DOG!
RoseAnn,
Well said, GO DOG! :) :D :cool:
Diane Jarosz
08-08-2003, 08:59 AM
Interesting story.
Seems to me in the end all will get what's deserved.
I sense very little negativity in "Dog" .
He will rise above this and come out with more than we could all imagine! You watch.
Michael Harris
08-08-2003, 10:06 AM
Diane,
Have you checked out "Dog's" website?:) :D :cool: There is a link in one of the earlier posts in this thread.:) :D :cool: Comes with music and a great background on Dog. :) :D :cool:
Diane Jarosz
08-08-2003, 10:55 AM
Have you checked out "Dog's" website? There is a link in one of the earlier posts in this thread. Comes with music and a great background on Dog.
No Michael,
I'll go to his website later on today.
Thanks,
DJ
Diane Jarosz
08-08-2003, 11:08 AM
Is this quote why "Dog" won't get any money?
After a Jan. 9 federal warrant was ordered for Luster, California bail forfeiture laws give Chapman and anybody else 180 days to capture Luster to get 15 percent of the $1 million bail, or $150,000.
Diane Jarosz
08-08-2003, 11:08 AM
Michael,
The quote came from "Dog's" website.
DJ
Michael Harris
08-08-2003, 12:03 PM
Diane,
A judge in NH denied Dog any money - this was after the capture.:mad:
B Ann Craig
08-08-2003, 04:22 PM
I really like Dog Chapman's web site. The music really adds to the intrigue. It's interesting, with lots of information.
I missed this Good Morning America show. I hope he will be on again. I would love to hear him in an interview. I feel he really got the short end of the stick, on this one. He did break the law in order to catch our rapist, but he did get the job done. He has done all of us a service. I wish Chapman was getting the bounty, and giving some to the victims. The victims should get the bounty. It should be paid.
Chapman, will know don't, come out in so much better shape after this find, even without the bounty. I hope he can file an appeal. We will have to watch, wait, and see if anything better, can come out of this ordeal.
Have a wonderful week. Take care. :)
Michael Harris
08-08-2003, 05:16 PM
Ann,
It is a shame that sometimes laws have to be bent to achieve justice.:mad:
Time to rethink a few laws. :cool: :D :)
B Ann Craig
08-08-2003, 05:26 PM
Yes, Michael, we could rethink our laws, but that won't change anything in Mexico. Mexico has always been a place to run, so the law can't get the bad guys. To bad. :(
Have a wonderful week. Take care. :):
Kathleen Padgett
08-12-2003, 06:08 PM
Hey everyone, just got back after several days of travel, catching up on all my e-mail... While I was away, I happened to hear a brief blurb on the news on the radio about this ordeal... not sure of all the details, but stay tuned for more from Dog, as it sounds like a movie may be in the works, regarding Luster's capture:)
One way or the other, Dog will most likely receive some financial reward:)
I suspect all victims also have the ability to sue Luster's wealthy estate/inheritance for monetary settlements, particularly since he has officially been convicted and sentenced for his crimes. In addition, they may even receive compensation for telling their stories to the movie producers. At least the possible movie deal presents some potential for compensation to the victims, they deserve it :)
B Ann Craig
08-12-2003, 08:23 PM
Kathleen, that sounds great. I hope they make the movie. That would produce a good income. Maybe something good will become of this after all.
Thank you for the information. keep us posted if you hear any more. ;)
Have a wonderful week. Take care. :)
Michael Harris
08-12-2003, 08:27 PM
Kathie,
That is good news. :) Dog deserves something for his risk. :D
The families, et al could sue even without a conviction, but a conviction makes it easier or more certain. :cool:
Kathleen Padgett
08-13-2003, 07:45 PM
Hi Ann,
I agree that something good may come out of this in the end after all. The movie should be very interesting as well. I'll be looking forward to it when it comes out.
Hi Michael,
Totally agree, job well done! The conviction should help the victims tremendously, confirms their accusations.
:)
Michael Harris
08-13-2003, 07:51 PM
Hi Kathie,
Justice is great. I tried to get a thread going about Law and Justice, but Legal Affairs thought it was a leagl issue rather than the philosopical one I had intended.:)
The difference between law and justice is that justice answers to a higher law.:cool:
I was in the mood to chat tonight, but someone burst my bubble.:( :mad:
But I am so glad you are here tonight. :cool: :D :)
Kathleen Padgett
08-13-2003, 07:53 PM
Hi Michael,
That's a bummer.. I would have loved to have a forum on legal issues and justice... that would have been interesting and fun.
I blew through the Jersey turnpike this week... hate that toll, LOL
B Ann Craig
08-14-2003, 12:37 AM
Kathleen, Yes, it will be a very interesting movie! I wonder who will play the parts? Can't wait till is comes out. ;)
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Michael, law and justice, could be a very controversial topic. That could get very heated up. Best left in our minds, I think. ;)
Have a wonderful week everyone. Take care. :)
Rod Elliott
08-14-2003, 01:57 AM
Ann,
It could be Chuck Norris as Dog. He always plays the good guy.:)
Rod
Kathleen Padgett
08-14-2003, 06:23 AM
Chuck Norris would be a great choice to play the role of Dog;)
Michael Harris
08-14-2003, 08:54 AM
Rod,
It is interesting that you would suggest Chuck Norris as Dog. :) When I tried to describe Dog to someone, I said that he looked like a beefed-up Chuck Norris. :D Great minds think along the same paths. :rolleyes:
B Ann Craig
08-14-2003, 11:52 AM
Rod, Chuck Norris would be a great choice to be Chapman. ;)
Rod Elliott
08-14-2003, 02:29 PM
Like Michael, I thought Dog looked a lot like Norris. Norris isn't really that big but good camera work takes care of that.
Rod
Kathleen Padgett
08-14-2003, 05:19 PM
Absolutely, I've done the Hollywood/Universal tour... it's amazing what they can do with cameras, right before your eyes, things are not as they appear. The camera tricks are awesome.
RoseAnn Weingart
08-14-2003, 07:15 PM
I agree, Chuck Norris should play the part. I always like his acting and he looks similar to DOG.
His website is awesome.
Have a good night.
Melissa Turchetta
08-19-2003, 01:58 PM
It is about time that they got this guy. I saw the movie on Lifetime and my heart went out to the girls he did this horrible crime to. Just because he comes from money and has power, there is no way that he should ever get away with this.:D
Michael Harris
08-19-2003, 04:30 PM
Melissa,
W-E-L-C-O-M-E to IPIU and the IPIU forums!!! :) :D :cool:
The rich throuhout history and in all cultures thought they could do as they pleased. :( We are starting to catch enough of them that they may start to think about criminal activities.
You need to go to the Introduction's Lounge to post an introduction so that we will know a little about you. :) :D :cool: After that, all the helpful people in the forums will know you area new and will post good advice for you. First piece of advice - read, read, and reread. :rolleyes: :p :o
Amanda Monroe
08-20-2003, 12:38 AM
I believe that justice will prevail with a little help from the State Dept. and "Dog" will be fine. The publicity certainly took him to a national level and that will help his endeavors in the future. Although he may have to disguise himself a little now that his photo has appeared.....that's the downside.
I totally agree!
B Ann Craig
08-20-2003, 04:12 AM
Originally posted by Melissa Turchetta
It is about time that they got this guy. I saw the movie on Lifetime and my heart went out to the girls he did this horrible crime to. Just because he comes from money and has power, there is no way that he should ever get away with this.:D
Melissa, please make a new topic in the members introduction lounge, with your introduction.
Click Here: Forum Member Introduction's Lounge! (http://www.ipiu.org/forums//forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=45)
Also, please read the following topic.
Click Here: Newcomer? Do This First (www.ipiu.org/forums//showthread.php?s=&threadid=5008)
Glad to have you with us. Good luck in all you do.
Have a wonderful week. Take care. :)
B Ann Craig
08-20-2003, 04:20 AM
I believe that justice will prevail with a little help from the State Dept. and "Dog" will be fine. The publicity certainly took him to a national level and that will help his endeavors in the future. Although he may have to disguise himself a little now that his photo has appeared.....that's the downside.
I think his picture has been on his web site all along. I bet he is a master of diguses. So I don't think this will effect him in a big way. I sure hope all of this helps him in every way.
Have a wonderful week. Take care. :)
Kathleen Padgett
08-20-2003, 07:23 AM
Hi Ann,
I think it's a safe bet that dog is a master of disguise, couldn't agree with you more. Many other PI's and bounty hunters are likely masters at this as well, especially those that are well known and/or working on the high profile cases;)
Michael Harris
08-20-2003, 08:22 AM
Go, DOG! :cool:
B Ann Craig
08-21-2003, 07:50 AM
Kathleen, I totally agree with you.
Have a wonderful week. Take care. :)
Michael Harris
08-21-2003, 08:40 AM
Good Morning Ann,
We hope that Dog does not go crazy with his disguises like Inspector Clouseau. :o
I miss Peter Sellers.
B Ann Craig
08-21-2003, 08:51 AM
Good morning, Michael. I think Chapman, is way ahead of Inspector Clouseau. I wonder what he would think about this subject? :rolleyes:
Peter Seller, I can take him, or leave him. He was funny, though. :D
Sylvia Buetow
10-25-2003, 02:39 PM
I followed this thread, hoping for good news about "Dog" Chapman. Has he been released? I feel like going down and getting him. (I'd end up in jail too.) It has been a few months.
Sylvia Buetow
10-25-2003, 02:48 PM
Looks like I missed the GOOD NEWS. OK I'm happy he's fine.
Dragos Sfinteanu
10-26-2003, 11:44 AM
The (movie) prototype bounty hunter
Kathleen Padgett, Ann Craig, RoseAnn Weingard and Rod Elliot agreed that Chuck Norris would be a great choice for Duane Chapman. Michael Harris is tempted to prefer Peter Sellers.
But, what about Steve McQueen? He played the bounty hunter
in "Hunter".... I think he was the prototype in this field and he was excellent.
B Ann Craig
11-02-2003, 10:07 PM
Originally posted by Dragos Sfinteanu
The (movie) prototype bounty hunter
Kathleen Padgett, Ann Craig, RoseAnn Weingard and Rod Elliot agreed that Chuck Norris would be a great choice for Duane Chapman. Michael Harris is tempted to prefer Peter Sellers.
But, what about Steve McQueen? He played the bounty hunter
in "Hunter".... I think he was the prototype in this field and he was excellent.
Dragos, I totally agree that Steve McQueen as Ralph "Papa" Thorson, was without a doubt, the best Bounty Hunter movie. This was Steve McQueens last move he made in his short life. It was made in 1980. I could watch this movie every time it is on. So, he isn't an option for this movie.
The real Ralph "Papa" Thorson was a bear of a man. He was in The Hunter movie. He was the bartender when Steve McQueen went to get a drink. The real Ralph "Papa" Thorson was blown up in his car, by a car bomb in 1994. It was planted by a skips, he cought that was sent up. We have lost some really good people at a young age. :(
Have a wonderful week. Take care. :)
Dragos Sfinteanu
11-02-2003, 11:37 PM
Ann,
I am impressed by your knowledge in both "Bounty Hunter" realms: film history and real life.
Like you, I could watch "Hunter" every time it is on. Steve McQueen was one of my favourite actors (and still is)....
I remember the bartender, the real Ralph "Papa" Thorson, trying to comfort Steve and the answer: "I came here to drink, not to talk" . I had no idea who was that guy.
Thank you. Please, have also a wanderful week.
B Ann Craig
11-03-2003, 04:51 AM
Dragos, I'm glad to give you that bit of knowledge. I love learning new information, myself. Yes, the statement by Steve McQueen I remember will.
I know if you have watched him, like I have, you have to love a car chase in a Metallic green, 1968 Mustang Fastback GT 390. I know, you will know what I am talking about? Fantastic show, too! ;) Now to leave you on the edge of your set. :D
Have a wonderful week. Take care. :)
Dragos Sfinteanu
11-03-2003, 12:36 PM
Ann,
I am delighted commenting Steve McQueen chases :) . I think you are talking about the "Bullit" chase (again, I am astonished by your outstanding memory.... "metalic green 1968 Mustang Fastback GT 390" !).
Yes, his chases are memorable: those in the corn field and the skyscraper parking (Hunter), escaping the law (Gateway), and enforcing the law (Bullit)... the best one (remember the streets of San Francisco were almost empty, the police guys did not want to take any risk).
Thank you again for offering me this pleasant and unexpected surprise.
Dragos
B Ann Craig
11-04-2003, 02:59 AM
Dragos, yes, Steve McQueen has the most memorable chase of all times. Good thing the streets of San Francisco were almost empty! The buckling of the setbelts, the lost hubcap, the shifting of the gears, and the sounds of that engine purr. Now, I will have to see these movies again. ;)
Have a wonderful week. Take care. :)
Dragos Sfinteanu
11-20-2003, 03:13 AM
Ann,
I am responding a little bit late. The last two weeks I was out of town (actually out of the country).
You was right. Steve McQueen has the most memorable chase, better than any "James Bond" chase. Even the most spectacular chases of the last years (like "Ronin"/Robert de Niro, "The Bourne Identity"/Matt Darmon, etc. , can not reach the peak set by McQueen.
Have a wonderful day.
B Ann Craig
11-20-2003, 06:26 AM
Dragos, I love all of Robert DeNiro's movies. Yes, that was a good one! I haven't seen the Matt Darmon movie. I will have to watch for it. Thank you for reminding me of these movie. ;)
Have a wonderful week. Take care. :)
Dragos Sfinteanu
11-23-2003, 02:12 PM
Ann,
Matt Darmon's movie is a remake after the first "The Bourne Identity" (starring Richard Chamberlain). Both are above average but one of them is better. After watching them maybe we could comment. (I would not like to alter your preferences).
Heve a wonderful week too.
B Ann Craig
12-01-2003, 11:35 PM
Dragos, I will watch for this movie; and let you know what I think after I watch it. I can't say how soon that will be, though. ;)
Have a wonderful week. Take care. :)
Dragos Sfinteanu
12-01-2003, 11:57 PM
A Chinese proverb says: "For good things we have all the time in the world".
Have a wonderful week too.
B Ann Craig
12-02-2003, 01:31 AM
Dragos, thank you. That is a very good proverb. ;)
Ken Rohrer
12-02-2003, 10:09 PM
Originally posted by Kathleen Padgett
I hope they release the bounty hunter, who seems like he should be rewarded for his efforts, rather than arrested. <blockquote>I stayed in Durango, Mexico for about 6 weeks a few years ago and I was able to converse with the US consulate there. He had many stories to share. He said that many policemen in Mexico are corrupt and sometimes arrest Americans just to get paid a ransom to release them. He spoke of one case where a young couple was driving and had an accident. Unfortunately, the driver had been drinking and he was put in prison "for life". After some negotiation through the consulate, they paid the police $400 to release the boy.<P>I wouldn't be surprised if some of the policemen who arrested him were looking for a share of the bounty themselves.</blockquote>
Tina M Phillips
12-28-2003, 03:05 AM
Chapman was only doing his job and we all know our jobs take some degree of risk, undo punishment and ridicule.
We all must suffer when doing good be the good will always prevail in the end.
I pray for him and his release.
Tina Phillips
Dragos Sfinteanu
12-28-2003, 12:54 PM
Originally posted by Tina M Phillips
Chapman was only doing his job and we all know our jobs take some degree of risk, undo punishment and ridicule...
I pray for him and his release.
Tina, do you know that:
1. Bounty hunting is considered a crime in Mexico?
2. Duane Chapman was not a legally authorized bail recovery agent when he "took" Luster from a Mexican city?
For a PI , the cold, lucid, and...docummented analysis should prevail over his/her sympathy. :cool:
My personal opinion about Chapman is posted at "Chapman 2" topic (same forum).
Michael Harris
12-29-2003, 07:06 PM
I am disappointed that bounty hunting is illegal in Mexico. I was looking forward to using it as an excuse for a warm vacation.
Kathleen Padgett
12-29-2003, 09:03 PM
Too funny Michael :D Not a bad idea, this time of the year either ;)
Ken Rohrer
12-29-2003, 11:37 PM
Originally posted by Michael Harris
I am disappointed that bounty hunting is illegal in Mexico. I was looking forward to using it as an excuse for a warm vacation. <blockquote>Michael,<P>You're back! I was wondering what happened to you. I haven't seen a post from you in awhile.</blockquote>
Dragos Sfinteanu
12-30-2003, 01:23 AM
Michael,
I am so glad meeting you again.
I would recommend to keep an eye on your... driver license if traveling over there. I just had a bad experience, during a "warm vacation".
But "First thing first". Your Pledge needs you. I was going to answer but if you are here, the "command decision" belongs to you.
Michael Harris
12-31-2003, 01:32 PM
To All:
I was traveling to Wichita for a consulting job every few weeks. The travel killed me and I had to take a week to recover from each trip.
I still want to be an investigator, but when someone offers you $6K a week to do what is easy for you, how can you say No? Especially when your bank balance is down to two figures.
Ken Rohrer
12-31-2003, 04:21 PM
Originally posted by Michael Harris
To All:
I was traveling to Wichita for a consulting job every few weeks. The travel killed me and I had to take a week to recover from each trip.
I still want to be an investigator, but when someone offers you $6K a week to do what is easy for you, how can you say No? Especially when your bank balance is down to two figures. <blockquote>What kind of consulting job do you have? I would travel to Wichita for 6K.</blockquote>
Michael Harris
12-31-2003, 07:15 PM
Ken,
I am a business process engineer. I was streamlining the configuration management processes - specifically, the configuration control board processes - of a manufacturer in the mid-West.
If I told you the details, the country's economy would suffer greatly. In the old days, the final note would have been - "If I told you, I would have to kill you'"
Moderators: Please do not mess with this post.
Ken Rohrer
12-31-2003, 11:25 PM
<blockquote>Michael,<P>Ah! The old streamlining of configuration control board processes! I configure those in my sleep.<P>I guess if you can understand what this means, you deserve to make 6K a week. I hope you haven't had to kill many people.</blockquote>
Michael Harris
01-01-2004, 09:41 AM
Ken,
I also developed a maturity model for the processes. Check out the SEI CMM/CMMI or the PMI OPM3 to see what these models do for building a world-class organization.
Dragos Sfinteanu
01-01-2004, 05:33 PM
By the way, Duane Chapman, the "owner" of the topic, is still in prison? Is there an update of the story?
Ken Rohrer
01-01-2004, 09:18 PM
Originally posted by Michael Harris
....Check out the SEI CMM/CMMI or the PMI OPM3 to see what these models do for building a world-class organization. <blockquote>MR ducks. CDEDBD ducks? C3PO would be proud.</blockquote>
Michael Harris
01-01-2004, 11:09 PM
Ken,
Norm Augustine (former CEO of Lockheed Martin Corporation and former Sec. of the Army) did a study of the use of acronyms in government documents - greater than 50%.
In my world, it is the only way to get across the message in an 8-hour day.
Doreen Payton -
01-01-2004, 11:29 PM
Ah, it used to be that one could say 'It's Greek to me'
Now one could just say 'It's computereeze to me'
Michael you are my computer idol.
Michael Harris
01-01-2004, 11:31 PM
Doreen,
Oh, you thrill me with talk like that. :) :D :cool:
Ken Rohrer
01-01-2004, 11:39 PM
<blockquote>Not to get back on the subject or anything, but there is recent news on Duane "Dog" Chapman. A judge says he can't keep any of the bounty because he broke the law in Mexico. He was called a "vigilante" by the judge. You can read all about it at:<P>http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,93899,00.html</blockquote>
Michael Harris
01-01-2004, 11:48 PM
Ken,
I think that Duane Chapman has received more than $350,000 in free advertising for his exploits.
The best thing is that the judge did not free Andrew Luster because of this.
Doreen Payton -
01-02-2004, 12:20 AM
Thank you Ken
For getting us 'back on the subject' and for the link. ;)
Michael Harris
01-02-2004, 12:39 AM
Doreen,
I assume you have seen how easy it is to get off-topic.
Doreen Payton -
01-02-2004, 07:32 PM
Constantly Michael.
Michael Harris
01-02-2004, 09:08 PM
Doreen,
Now that we are back on the topic, I am glad that Andrew Luster is back serving his 125-year sentence. I would be willing to let him be paroled in 100 years.:cool:
Doreen Payton -
01-02-2004, 09:33 PM
Well, only if he was on good behavior. ;)
I wonder how he liked the Mexican jails?
Mary A Young -
01-02-2004, 11:56 PM
Originally posted by Doreen Payton
I wonder how he liked the Mexican jails?
I wonder how he SURVIVED the Mexican jails. I can't imagine they would even as safe as ours and that isn't saying a whole lot.
Mary
Michael Harris
01-03-2004, 12:19 AM
Mary/Doreen,
I believe that the Mexican jails, like many in the Mid-East and Eastern Europe have isolated cells and do not let theprisoneres mix like we do in The Yard. If you keep your prisoners confined to their cells almost 24 hours a day, you do not have to pay as many guards to watch the prisoners.
In many of these third-world jails, the families take care of teh prisoners - bring them food, water, medicine, clothing, and blankets.
With money behind you, jail might not be that bad in Mexico.
Just some rambling thoughts.
Tina M Phillips
01-03-2004, 01:42 AM
Originally posted by Michael Harris
Mary/Doreen,
I believe that the Mexican jails, like many in the Mid-East and Eastern Europe have isolated cells and do not let theprisoneres mix like we do in The Yard. If you keep your prisoners confined to their cells almost 24 hours a day, you do not have to pay as many guards to watch the prisoners.
In many of these third-world jails, the families take care of teh prisoners - bring them food, water, medicine, clothing, and blankets.
With money behind you, jail might not be that bad in Mexico.
Just some rambling thoughts.
We love your thoughts. Didn't you know it keeps us coming here day to day, hour after hour!!:cool: :D
Michael Harris
01-03-2004, 10:34 AM
Tina,
Please stop feeding my ego. :o
Doreen Payton -
01-03-2004, 01:49 PM
Though the cells may be isolated and the general population seperate I still wouldn't think that a Mexican jail is up to the level of standards of an heir to such a fortune.
That is one of life's little ironies that really amuse me.
Michael Harris
01-03-2004, 02:42 PM
Doreen,
I have only spent a few hours in jail - in DC - for parking tickets. I think I wrote about that in the forums.
Dragos Sfinteanu
01-03-2004, 06:45 PM
Originally posted by Michael Harris
Doreen,
I have only spent a few hours in jail - in DC - for parking tickets. I think I wrote about that in the forums.
Jail "time" for parking tickets ? This means you "served" once for all your "sins"?
Michael Harris
01-03-2004, 06:47 PM
Dragos,
I had more than three parking tickets. The experience was interesting. I wrote about it in here somewhere.:eek: :o
Dragos Sfinteanu
01-03-2004, 08:41 PM
Michael,
I agree. Each experience is interesting. That specific one should be twice more exciting than other ones. :D
Ken Rohrer
01-04-2004, 02:45 AM
Originally posted by Michael Harris
...I had more than three parking tickets. The experience was interesting. I wrote about it in here somewhere.:eek: :o Michael,<P>When I was going to school in Chicago a fellow student said she gets about 300 parking tickets a year (this was before they began booting). She would go to court once a year and have her ticket fees cut in half. She saved hundreds of dollars in parking doing this. She had it good. She could park anywhere and then only pay the fees once a year at 50% the rate.</blockquote>
Michael Harris
01-04-2004, 09:39 AM
Ken,
I saved money on parking, too. I like her approach. This works only if they do not boot.:o
Joyce C Dixon
01-04-2004, 06:25 PM
Hi Ann Boy do I remember the show I use to watch it all the time it was good wish they would bring some of the good old shows back.
Doreen Payton -
01-04-2004, 09:02 PM
Michael-
You rebel with a cause you.
Jail time for an ordained minister. :D
Ken- I would think that the ticket fines would be more expensive than the actual parking costs, not true huh?
What is 'booting'?
Michael Harris
01-04-2004, 09:06 PM
Doreen,
I was not ordained at the time. Besides it was cheaper to pay tickets than it was to find parking that you could afford.
One job I was offered came with the right salary, but the parking was too high, so the company upped the offer by $1500 to help cover the cost of cheap parking. Then the company had some extra spaces in the building that I got for free. They were normally $185 a month in the Wearly 1980s.:o
Ken Rohrer
01-04-2004, 09:21 PM
Originally posted by Doreen Payton
Ken- I would think that the ticket fines would be more expensive than the actual parking costs, not true huh?
What is 'booting'? Doreen-<P>Booting is where they fasten a metal clamp on the front wheel of the car. The car is unmoveable until the clamp is removed. At the time the classmate told me about her parking tickets, on average, parking was around $8 a day. (now its about $12 - 15) Tickets at that time were about $4.50 and she got them cut in half every year.
Michael Harris
01-05-2004, 10:31 AM
Doreen,
If you have never seen a Denver boot, they are awesome. They make the car undriveable without major damage.
The standard denver boot is designed to fit vehicles that have a flat rim face. The difference between the standard boot and the 4x4 boot is the amount of height inside the hub. The standard boot will fit the majority of the vehicles on the road.
The 4x4 denver boot is designed to fit vehicles with a 4x4 hub. Both the 4x4 denver boot and the standard denver boot use the same clamp and arm. The only difference between the two is the hub cover.
The important things to know are that it is light weight at 14 pounds (half the weight of most other boots), it does not rust or require paint and it is easy to install.
The boot is a three piece assembly: wheelclamp, hub (lug nut) cover, and arm. The arm has two pockets which allow for an adjustment for wheel size (larger or smaller). The three piece assembly allows for a compact device and is very easy to transport in multiples. The Denver Boot is made primarily for street worthy vehicles. It will fit most cars, pickup trucks and vans. A special hub cover can be used with 4 wheel drive vehicles with extended hubs. When paint is requested, the hub cover and arm are painted for "higher visibility" purpose. As the boot does not rust, the paint is not required for protection. This is a cosmetic and often desired requirement.
Standard Boot (http://www.denverboot.com/Standard.htm)
Alfonso Pelote
01-05-2004, 12:08 PM
Hello Sara,
I am glad that the bounty hunter got his man. I pray that he is released, because he has caught a rat that needs to stand trail for his crimes.
Michael Harris
01-05-2004, 04:09 PM
Alfonso,
The bad guy, Andrew Luster, is serving 125 years. The good guy, Duane Chapman, is free and basking in all the free publicity.
The judge, like the prosecutors in New Jersey, do not like it when bounty hunters do the work they think the police should do.
I am following up on a story from September 2003 by Wendy Ruderman of The Inquirer in Phildelphia about the trouble in NJ with bounty hunters not being permitted to carry guns. I will keep you posted on this one - Wendy and I are in communication. :) :D :cool:
Doreen Payton -
01-05-2004, 11:24 PM
Michael and Ken
Thank you for the explanation of what a boot is. I saw a joke one on tv before. The guy had a phoney one on his car so he could park in a red zone because with the phoney boot on it looked like the police had already taken care of it.
I wonder if they sell the 'pretend' ones somewhere and if they fool the meter maids?
Michael Harris
01-06-2004, 03:17 PM
Doreen,
I could not import the image of a boot, but I did provide the link. Did you look at the boot?:o
Doreen Payton -
01-06-2004, 08:52 PM
Yes Michael, I did. Thank you. That was just like the one I saw on a movie on tv. If I remember right the phoney boot was on the movie 'Coyote Ugly' and it was a bright yellow.
I don't think they use those in California but I could be wrong.
Michael Harris
01-06-2004, 10:20 PM
Doreen,
In most cities they paint them bright yellow or orange and post a huge sticker across the windshield so you cannot see out. :(
Doreen Payton -
01-07-2004, 10:23 AM
Michael
Nothing like a little public embarrassment to go along with it.
I wonder if people like Andrew Luster (notice the segue into the existing topic?) ever get embarrassed about their crimes and the public attention that go along with it?
I know that Duane Chapman must be benifitting, more people know who he is and what he does and what he is willing to do to get the job done. But these spoiled millionaire punks, do they have a conscience?
Michael Harris
01-07-2004, 10:34 AM
Doreen,
You asked a good question and I like the segue. Public embarrassment does not seem to affect the spoiled rich. I just finished a novel by Elizabeth Peters (one of her Amelia Peabody stories) set in the 1890s. The main character mentions the scandals, etc. of the young men of titled familes - no one cared what they did, but any other person;s life would be ruined.
We have not progressed since Victorian times.
Public embarrassment would be good for drunk drivers and people who file frivolous lawsuits. :eek: :o
Doreen Payton -
01-07-2004, 10:53 AM
Michael
I don't know what I was thinking.
Many people, higher economic stature or not, don't have any understanding of being embarrassed.
Look at the 'reality' shows and those truly disgusting shock talk shows that are on tv. The Jerry Springer, Maury Povich and Ricki Lake type shows. I am sure I missed a few names.
I always liked the saying (butchered here) "If you have skeletons in your closet you might as well make them dance" was great but some people take this to too great an extreme.
Some people have no shame but really should.
Michael Harris
01-07-2004, 05:15 PM
Doreen,
I actually have more experience with the bottom end of the socio-economic spectrum than the top.
The only millionaires I know (other than the kids I went ot college with) made their own fortunes and they are still "rea people". the kids in college came from wealth, but not disgusting wealth (only a few of the kids had more than a few million of their own).
I live in a poor town with inbred locals. Many of them do not have any shame, even the ones who know the word.:o
Doreen Payton -
01-08-2004, 12:53 AM
Michael
I don't have any experience with really wealthy people either. So I can't really compare the behavior of rich people to not so rich people. And of course it really isn't that black and white. As you said there are some wealthy people that are 'real' as opposed to those people who think they are someone special because they have money. There are economically challenged people that are willing to share whatever they have with you and then there are those that are fodder for the Springer, Povich and Lake shows.
We human beings are and interesting bunch.
Joyce C Dixon
01-08-2004, 09:29 AM
How true Doreen. there are some nice rich people out there.. but I think they stay home and hide.(he he) I work with all kinds and I can say is some oooops all the rich people I have met think they are so much better than you and they hate to pay there bills. the not so rich people when I finish with the job they had me do right there and then they pay me. But anyone who has money I darn have to screem at them.. But to me people are people there is good in all at lest God for bid I hope
Michael Harris
01-08-2004, 09:50 AM
Doreen,
I realize that a few of the people who appear on the shows you mentioned who are actors or simply fakes. In any case, they have no shame.:o
David Copeland
01-08-2004, 01:28 PM
Originally posted by Dragos Sfinteanu
By the way, Duane Chapman, the "owner" of the topic, is still in prison? Is there an update of the story?
To all:
Let's all keep comments in this topic on-topic. Some of you have had your comments deleted in other topics where the discussion drifted to another subject for 2 pages.
If anyone wishes to discuss the Denver Boot or anything not related to this topic, we welcome you to author a new topic and tiltle it.
Please . . . .
Doreen Payton -
01-08-2004, 03:36 PM
Point taken David.
:)
David Copeland
01-08-2004, 05:54 PM
Originally posted by Doreen Payton
Point taken David.
:) I hate being a cop. ;)
That's why I became a private investigator. At least I can pick and choose who to be a hero to, and who (when necessary) I can "play cop". :D
Michael Harris
01-08-2004, 06:45 PM
David,
We are glad you made the move. We hope you are happy or, at least, content.
B Ann Craig
01-12-2004, 06:09 AM
Originally posted by Joyce C Dixon
Hi Ann Boy do I remember the show I use to watch it all the time it was good wish they would bring some of the good old shows back.
Joyce, I just watched the movie again Friday night! When they make the movie about Duane Chapman, it should be just as exciting. I just wish Steve was still alive to play the part. I look forward to his movie when it comes out. Maybe we will get the information on the forum when they have it in the works. ;)
Have a wonderful week. Take care. :)
Joyce C Dixon
01-14-2004, 11:00 AM
Hi Ann. Sure hope so too.
have a great day:)
B Ann Craig
01-15-2004, 04:01 AM
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James L Parmenter -
03-30-2004, 07:20 PM
Good story...with the facts. Mexico does have its problems, many of which end up in US and flee back to south of the border. The man had to go through Customs, i would assume....why did he pass? Its sad that "Dog" and his colleages got arrested, perhaps the State Dept. will see to it that they are released. With Mexico being a border Country, you'd think that our Customs Agents would have been on the look out for the fugitive....I hope all turns out well for "Dog" and his band of abled body men...........
Patrice-Maria Love
05-07-2004, 07:17 PM
I think this is very unfortunate that Chapman got arrested for getting Luster. I believe this is why he didn't inform the Mexican authorities because of their outrageous laws.
May God be with him as he take his rightful place doing his ministry, capturing
crooks! Also, I used to love "Have Gun Will Travel," Paladin played by Richard Boone.
I agree, he will have to wear disguises since the nation viewed him on "Good Morning
America."
B Ann Craig
05-09-2004, 02:21 AM
Patrice, I loved to watch Have Gun Will Travel. Chapman makes me think of Paladin in a way. They are both the men in black. ;)
Have a wonderful weekend. Take care. :)
Prem Prasad
06-06-2004, 02:29 AM
It is a sad story. If you break the Law and take it in your hands then justice has to be served. I wish him all the best of luck.
Londrá Graham
09-08-2004, 02:36 PM
Prem,
Sad but true. Think about this .....We wouldn't be having this discussion if he hadn't been arrested, even though he did break the law. So who is wrong?
Michael Harris
09-08-2004, 02:56 PM
Ann,
Do you remember what Paladin's background was? He was a former US Army officer. He did not have a clue what to do when he got started. His first opponent could have killed him, but helped him get started. Paladin's holster was US Army issue - soft leather with a secured flap. No way to do a quuick draw with that. His opponent explained this to him and told him hold to cut the leather down and how to make it stiff. Now that is the kind of opponet you need to get started.
pal·a·din (p²l“…-d¹n) n. 1. A paragon of chivalry; a heroic champion. 2. A strong supporter or defender of a cause:
I do like the link between Paladin and Dog. Both from the wrong background to do the work they were doing. Both had high moral and ethical standards.
Thanks for the memories.
B Ann Craig
09-09-2004, 09:54 AM
Michael, you are welcome. Yes, I knew this information well. I can remember watching the first show. I was hooked from that point on.
I was watching the Regis & Kelly show yesterday morning. Duane "Dog" Chapman, and his wife were on that show. They both are bounty hunters. He has a new reality show that is going to air today, I think. I tried to find this show in the line up, but could not find it. They showed a clip form the new show, but I forgot the name of the show. :o I hope I don't miss it. ;)
Have a wonderful week. Take care. :)
Michael Harris
09-09-2004, 10:08 AM
Ann,
The show about Dog is already on. There is a thread on it - http://www.ipiu.org/forums/showthread.php?t=18710&highlight=dog+bounty+hunter.
I like the show and I like Dog.
B Ann Craig
09-09-2004, 10:39 AM
Michael, I found the information on my TV Guide web site. I missed the ones you are talking about. There are some other showing of his shows in my area on A&E:
Sat, 9-11 2:30 PM Dog the Bounty Hunter: Father and Son 41 A&E
Tues, 9-14 9:00 PM Dog the Bounty Hunter: Bounty Hunters Have Hearts Too 41 A&E
Tues, 9-14 9:30 PM Dog the Bounty Hunter: Meet the Chapmans 41 A&E
Wed, 9-15 1:00 AM Dog the Bounty Hunter: Bounty Hunters Have Hearts Too 41 A&E
Wed, 9-15 1:30 AM Dog the Bounty Hunter: Meet the Chapmans 41 A&E
A&E shows their shows over again. I bet Chapman is making good money for his shows. ;)
Have a wonderful week. Take care. :)
Michael Harris
09-09-2004, 10:43 AM
Ann,
The nicest thing is that Dog seems like a nice human being.
His buisness is both bail bonding and bounty hunting so he is protecting his own money. The business is a family business - Dog, his wife, a son, a brother, and a nephew. They are all a little coarse, but they are real and likeable. He treats his fugitives with more respect than they deserve. He also does not use firearms.
Enjoy the show.
April Rank
09-12-2004, 06:09 PM
I wonder if talking to the Mexican authorities is just asking for a major can of worms? They would have wanted a bribe, probably. They also would have delayed things. Who's to say they wouldn't notify the guy Luster, and ask a bribe from him for info on who is looking for him.
I bet there are some honest cops down there, but there are probably enough corrupt ones to make any trip to the department a waste of time and money.
Now, I so hope someone knows for a fact that I'm wrong about this and proves me wrong. I'd feel better about traveling south of the border.
B Ann Craig
09-14-2004, 06:33 AM
Michael, thank you for this other information. I heard Dog talk about his business, and family on the TV show. His wife he put in jail, and when she got out, he told her to come by to pay him his money. When she came to pay him, was when he met her. When he seen her, well, you know how the story goes, he kept her. ;)
Have a wonderful week. Take care. :)
Victoria S Kinney
10-29-2004, 04:49 PM
That was a good article and I think he got a bum deal. It is sad to say the rich gets away with alot of things, just because they have money. That is just my opinion.
Alan J Krutz -
12-29-2005, 12:02 AM
is dog chapman aware of ipiu..?has anyone actual talked to him from ipiu..?..just curious
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