BTK Serial Killer

[Douglas Silvia-]

This guy fit the perfect profile of a Serial Killer. Some one asked me the other day why the long tome between killings? It is possible that the fantasy wore off and he needed to come up with a newer one. He seem to have stopped when he missed that one victim. His signature never changed it was evoling. He was working on his new fantasy and when he got to the point he needed to kill again he did.

He is your typical nerdy looking man, lived in the neighborhood and had ties to the college were the victims were, look at Edmund Kempers M.O., had ties to the college were he picked up his victims. Kempers mother with the Administration Assistant so she had a campus parking sticker on the car.

Hope the juice him quick.

[Charlotte Brooks]

That seems nuts that he has been "on the loose" for as long as he was!! I took a class (2 semesters ago in college) where we mostly learned the behaviors of serial killers...and it is downright frightening!

I had a computer program for that class titled "The Mind of a Serial Killer", and it has taught me alot about their backgrounds, childhood warning signs, etc... Pretty scary disc, but it taught me alot!

I hope this guy gets what he deserves though, and no less!

[Jan Conklin]

Yep, I read the article in the D- Post, and I was totally awe struck that he's been free and easy to live his life and enjoy his time, as opposed to his victims and their loved ones.

I find it ironic that he's been heavily active in a church, actually president of a 400-some-person congregation, and nobody, not one, had a single clue as to his other side. Undoubtedly he would profess to have been forgiven of his "sins": yet none of us can really tell when and if he'll strike again, and his past victims remain dead and/or destroyed regardless.

See, there's where I'm just way too suspicious by nature - I have always suspected that the more pious folks act outwardly, the more frightening are the skeletons in their closets. Seems like human beings are most susceptible to being fooled by a HUGE lie (who said that, somebody horrible like Hitler, wasn't it?) Thus, you seem to find the worst wolves all dressed up in sheep's skin or purty feathers and guarding the henhouse. Usually being paid double the salary you are, too, adding insult to injury.

Always, ALWAYS beware and remember: The professional private investigator searches for all of the truth. Even if the guy is preaching from a pulpit - the trail of dead bodies makes him, in fact, a serial killer. [Brrrrr-r-r-r]

[Ms Minta Thomson]

about serial killers......they are usually of genius IQ...very charming....calculating....and the reason they move thru life unsuspected ( if they are psychopaths vs. sociopaths) is that they're brains are wired differently.

The part of the brain in us (non serial killers for simplicity sake) that would react (turn red on the third word during a thermal scan) when we hear the words: baby, puppy dog, rape, sunset.........wouldnt even register as a different word in a psychopath. Their pulse wont rise either.

My PhD seems to be leaning towards concentrating on forensic/criminal psych. and I find myself becoming more and more apt to "profile" anyone I come in contact with thru-out my day.

I have many many books that I can recommend for anyone interested in these facinating behaviors.
Hope that helps.....Minta :D

[Douglas Silvia-]

Bundy's IQ was 124, John Wayne Gacey was 118, Kemper 120, Robert Yates 122, all have been of high intellegance, but maybe not a genius. Bundy was very charming, but was a total psychopath. I would not be surprized to find out that the BTK killer was abused by his mother. He had a hatred for women. You mentioned caculating, thses guys live and re-live there crime as a fanatasy over and over in their minds before they do it. These are not impluse crimes, they practice every aspect of the crime. It is estamated that there are 30 to 35 serial killers active in the U.S. today. Kinda scary.

[Beth Volkmar]

I watched a little bit of CNN last night and they had interviewed a man who witnessed his mother's murder back in the 70's when he was 5. I wanted to reach through the TV and hug the guy. I cannot imagine living with that image all my life.

I am just dumb-founded and cannot believe that people like BTK can function and act like a "normal" person going about their everyday lives---kiss the wife and kids goodbye and instead of going to the office, murder someone. How did his wife not know?

I hope he get what he deserves. But more importantly, I hope the lives of all those he ruined get swift justice and perhaps they will finally be on the road to healing a gapping wound that's been open for over 30 years.

[Douglas Silvia-]

I hate to keep refering to Bundy, but he lived a live that fooled many people including a U.S. Senator. Yes, these guys on the outside can live like normal, but on the inside the are dreaming of killing. The excitement of being in the public eye and not being caught must be part of the fantasy. As with Edmond Kemper, he hung around bars where the police hung out. He knew their routines and as he stated it excited him. He loved to taunt them. He talks about them coming to his house looking for a gun (Kemper) because the police found out he was a former mental patient. He had several guns, and he wanted to no which one they were looking for. The 22 was his murder weapon. He made the statement "that's quite a little gun" the police replied "a 44 mag is more then a little gun". Kemper gave them the 44. He had nothing to worry about because he never used it in his murders. So it is possible that this is also a part of their fantasy. I am no expert, but I have studied many of this guys and that would be my conclusion.

[Lisa Frye -]

HI Douglas,

I have moved your thread from the testimonials to the General News Stories so that other members interested in this particular subject would not overlook it. ;)

Great subject by the way! :)

Thank you for your participation.

Lisa

[Angie Falzon]

I heard from my co-worker this Friday that this guy had been caught a few weeks ago.

Some people are really sick and demented!! I hope he gets what he deserves!

[Matthew Thompson -]

I live by wichita where all this took place and when they sentenced him for one day in a long time that city felt relieved and at piece.

[Ronald Waits]

This guy fit the perfect profile of a Serial Killer. Some one asked me the other day why the long tome between killings? It is possible that the fantasy wore off and he needed to come up with a newer one. He seem to have stopped when he missed that one victim. His signature never changed it was evoling. He was working on his new fantasy and when he got to the point he needed to kill again he did.

He is your typical nerdy looking man, lived in the neighborhood and had ties to the college were the victims were, look at Edmund Kempers M.O., had ties to the college were he picked up his victims. Kempers mother with the Administration Assistant so she had a campus parking sticker on the car.

Hope the juice him quick.




I worked the BTK case as a Private Detective in the 80's here in Wichita. I shredded my entire file just before they caught him as I have been retired for some time and didn't feel any further need for it. Now I'm sorry, there was a lot of good, hard working information in that file. Oh well, Dennis Rader is history now.

Ron Waits

[Douglas Silvia-]

It's sad to say that for everyone caught there are many more out there still at large.