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Michael Harris
08-10-2004, 04:47 PM
To All:

I received this by email from a woman with whom I have done some business. I believe her to be a reasonable person, so I am passing this on. I do not know who Margaret Wade is, but that is not important. This could be entirely apocryphal, but the message is valid anyway.



This came from Margaret Wade:

I live in Alexandria, VA, but I often work Lafayette, LA, staying with friends when I'm there. As you know from America's Most Wanted TV program, as well as the news media, there is a serial killer in the Lafayette area. I just want to let you know about an "incident" that happened to me a few weeks ago, and could have been deadly.

At first I didn't go to the police or anyone with it because I didn't realize how serious this encounter was. But since I work in a jail and I told a few people about it, it wasn't long before I was paraded into Internal Affairs to tell them my story.

It was approximately 5:15 a.m. in Opelousas, LA. I had stayed with a friend there and was on my way to work. I stopped at the Exxon/Blimpie station to get gas. I got $10 gas and a Diet Coke... I took into the store two $5 bills and one $1 bill. (just enough to get my stuff)

As I pulled away from the store, a man approached my truck from the backside of the store (an unlit area). He was an "approachable-looking" man (clean cut, clean shaven, dressed well, etc.). He walked up to my window and knocked. Since I'm very paranoid and "always looking for the rapist or killer", I didn't open the window ... I just asked what he wanted. He raised a $5 bill to my window and said, "You dropped this. "Since I knew I had gone into the store with a certain amount of money, I knew I didn't drop it. When I told him it wasn't mine, he began hitting the window and door, screaming at me to open my door, and insisting that I had dropped the money! At that point, I just drove away as fast as I could.

After talking to the Internal Affairs Department and describing the man I saw, and the way he escalated from calm and polite to angry and volatile... it was determined that I could have possibly encountered the serial killer myself. Up to this point, it had been unclear as to how he had gained access to his victims, since there has been no evidence of forced entry into victim's homes, cars, etc. And the fact that he has been attacking in the daytime, when women are less likely to have their guard up, means he is pretty BOLD. (So think about it, what gesture is nicer than returning money to someone that dropped it?????) How many times would you have opened your window (or door) to get your money and say thank you....because if the person is kind enough to return something to you, then he can't really be a threat....Can he????

Please be cautious! This might not have been the serial killer... it probably wasn't... but anyone that gets that angry over someone not accepting money from them, can't have honorable intentions. The most important thing to note is that his reaction was NOT WHAT I EXPECTED! A total surprise! But what might have happened if I had opened my door? I shudder to think! Forward this to everyone you know... maybe they can be as fortunate as I was!

PS from the Sender: Ladies, really DO forward this to EVERYONE you know.

Even if this man wasn't a serial killer, he looked nice, he seemed polite, he was apparently doing an act of kindness, but HE HAD ANOTHER MOTIVE!!!

Susan R Roesch
08-10-2004, 05:22 PM
Mr. Harris,
I also recieved the same email. I concur that it is a very scary scenario with a valid message. A woman, or a man, for that matter, can never be too cautious when dealing with strangers. It's a shame we have to be so jaded, when strangers are concerned.

Flora Porter
08-28-2004, 08:44 AM
Mr. Harris,
I also recieved the same email. I concur that it is a very scary scenario with a valid message. A woman, or a man, for that matter, can never be too cautious when dealing with strangers. It's a shame we have to be so jaded, when strangers are concerned.
Hi Susan,
It's ashame we have to take heed and be cautious with strangers. :(

I have an experience where we were approached by a..well dressed wht man. The problem that we had was that he looked :mad: and i am sorry to say it but "yes" he wore a trenxch coat. So... we gawk at each other, put on our seatbelts, lift up our seat, turn on our dimmers and drove
away. To today we still ask"wonder what his problem was?"
:eek:

P.I.Trainee
Flora Porter

Ada Baciu
08-28-2004, 04:36 PM
I live in the city, and I know exactly what you are talking about. I encounter weird people all the time, and most of them are harmless. Usually the ones that you never suspect are the dangerous ones. I always have mace with me especially at night when I am alone on the street. Best to be prepared, right?

Denise Damazio
08-28-2004, 05:16 PM
I also live in a large city, and I am always cautious and observant of my surroundings, whether it be day or night when I am out. One can never be too careful with all the weirdos out there. Better to be safe than sorry.

Susan R Roesch
08-28-2004, 05:22 PM
Ada,
Yes, indeed, it is SO much better to be prepared! One thing that always helped me get around safely in an extreme urban environment was to always remember to project a confident attitude. The way you walk and carry yourself can be a deterrant to prospective muggers or people who would otherwise approach you to do you harm or just to pester you for money, etc. Always walk purposefully with your head high and your shoulders squared. Shades or a steely look in your eye can communicate determination, strength and commitment to your personal safety. Another thing is to watch your dress, ie. don't act like a helpless female! By that, I mean that even if you maybe don't have on a business suit or other conservative dress, you can still project an image of confidence and strength that others do take note of and by observing these tactics you could make a perpetrator think twice about messing with you. One more thing, always try to have your keys in hand and try to keep any unnecessary purse fumbling to a minimum. :cool:
Something to think about... :rolleyes:

Michael Harris
08-28-2004, 05:30 PM
Ada,

I know how it is. My estranged wife always attracted the crazies.

If you think about how some people are always being approached by crazies or marginal individuals, you may start to appreciate victimology.

Thank you for your comments, they trigger all kinds of interesting thoughts.

Susan R Roesch
08-28-2004, 05:38 PM
Mike,
As a woman who knows women I can say that is a big '10-4'! :p Some females will play the victim and will always BE the victim. A sad self-fulfilling prophecy that too many women (and men) are doomed to repeat.

Michelle A. Nelson
08-28-2004, 05:49 PM
I appreciate the heads up. As a woman, you can never be too careful when alone. Thanks.

Michelle

Lisa Frye -
08-29-2004, 03:12 PM
Note well taken.

As a woman I was taught at a very young age to watch over my shoulder and be aware of my surroundings at all times. It just comes second nature to me now after all these years as I'm sure it does to all women.

I had a similiar experience with a man at my car window but fortunately I had recieved that email prior to and I had opened my window only slightly so he would not even be able to get his hand in the window.

Thanks for sharing you never know when it might save someone from being seriously hurt.

Lisa

Ada Baciu
08-29-2004, 06:26 PM
Michael and Susan,
Thanks a lot for your tips. And, I always keep the keys in handy, but mostly because they are sharp objects that could be used to defend myself also. But the idea about walking with a purpose was very good. I never thought about it, but now that you mention it, Susan, that is a very good point.
Thanks a lot for the tip.

Ada

Susan R Roesch
08-29-2004, 06:59 PM
Hey, Ada...
I'm happy to be of help...yes, those sharp objects, ie. pens, pencils, keys, etc. are all things that we usually have close at hand when we're out and about. Another thing, which may sound a little weird, but if your'e ever approached when coming out of a supermarket, don't forget about those canned goods! A few cans swung in a plastic grocery bag can get your point across. A friend of mine was pestered by a determined crack head while she was coming out of the store. It scared the you-know-what out of her, but she was quick enough to swing those bags and that bit of aggressive action was enough to send the dude reeling and she was able to get into her car and use the cell phone. The local cops caught the guy and he was found to be in possession of paraphenalia and a big nasty screwdriver!
Stay safe!

Corwyn Patterson
08-29-2004, 07:33 PM
MAn..........whoever this was is really fortunate not have given in to this guy.All that gliters really isnt gold.I would open up to most well dressed ppl.I got to keep my guard up.Thanks for the warning

Flora Porter
08-30-2004, 07:46 AM
Hey, Ada...
I'm happy to be of help...yes, those sharp objects, ie. pens, pencils, keys, etc. are all things that we usually have close at hand when we're out and about. Another thing, which may sound a little weird, but if your'e ever approached when coming out of a supermarket, don't forget about those canned goods! A few cans swung in a plastic grocery bag can get your point across. A friend of mine was pestered by a determined crack head while she was coming out of the store. It scared the you-know-what out of her, but she was quick enough to swing those bags and that bit of aggressive action was enough to send the dude reeling and she was able to get into her car and use the cell phone.The local cops caught the guy and he was found to be in possession of paraphenalia and a big nasty screwdriver!
Stay safe!Being pestered on your way to your car by individual who say "miss,miss, your tire is flat".I know my "boo" is not bald and dont have a leak.
But beware!!!

Flo

Susan R Roesch
08-30-2004, 02:05 PM
Being pestered on your way to your car by individual who say "miss,miss, your tire is flat".I know my "boo" is not bald and dont have a leak.
But beware!!!

Flo

You are very correct...but in my friend's case, it was more like a not-so-nicely-dressed dirty, frenzied looking guy pestering her for money to ' buy whatever for his kids'. Understand the crack-head mentality and realize that they do NOT take "NO" for an answer. They are quick, drug-crazed and willing to do anything to get more money for another rock!
Stay Safe! :D

Barbara Ryan
10-25-2004, 06:11 PM
Thanks to everyone for the eye openers! I will be sending these warnings to my friends!

Viki Hostek
10-25-2004, 08:59 PM
Barbara, What a cute quote on the bottom of your letter, I'd never heard it before. Speaking of women being careful I read a book "Gift of Fear" and its very good. He talks about women's intuition. It's well worth reading.

Barbara Ryan
10-26-2004, 09:07 AM
Barbara, What a cute quote on the bottom of your letter, I'd never heard it before. Speaking of women being careful I read a book "Gift of Fear" and its very good. He talks about women's intuition. It's well worth reading.
Thanks Viki, I try to live by that quote... the other is “Life isn’t measured by the breaths we take….. but by the moments that take our breath away!”
And I will have to check out that book.

Roberta A Bryant
10-27-2004, 10:43 AM
To All:

I received this by email from a woman with whom I have done some business. I believe her to be a reasonable person, so I am passing this on. I do not know who Margaret Wade is, but that is not important. This could be entirely apocryphal, but the message is valid anyway.

I worked in the department of corrections and when you get down to it looking at these men if you did not read their files then they all seemed calm cool and sincere. I transfered to Classification and when reading the files I was shocked at some of the crimes what perfectly inocent men had commited but then after I took a step back I remembered I was working in a state prison. You never know I am always leary of anyone in these times you have to have your gaurd up especially in this business
Roberta Bryant

Flora Porter
06-29-2005, 12:34 PM
Michael and Susan,
Thanks a lot for your tips. And, I always keep the keys in handy, but mostly because they are sharp objects that could be used to defend myself also. But the idea about walking with a purpose was very good. I never thought about it, but now that you mention it, Susan, that is a very good point.
Thanks a lot for the tip.

Ada
Dear Ada and Susan,

I know where you're coming from with defense tactics and moves. ;)

I swear I can use more defense training. :rolleyes:

Now, with mase in the face you get away from danger points.

Now where do you hit the perp with the baton? On his knee cap or behind the knee.

Either way he will go down?

What type of threat requires physical attack response?

Now if he grabbed me from behind while I had my keys in hand...well I would go for the eyes...kick and scream.

If I was the aggressor cant i be charged with the assault.
When, while robbery was in progress?

I looking for feedback...what's a woman to do?


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