All Good will be attacked, and why IPIU has it's critics.

[Michael Newman]

I enjoyed reading another member's comment why he finds the International Private Investigators Union (IPIU) one of the best associations, based on his professional opinion.

Read his comments:

I am not one of the underdogs who is jealous of the "bigshots." I am a former Fed who is also struggling to "break in." I want to go head-to head with the "bigshots," and show them that this much-maligned union, IPIU, (sorry - but that is the small consensus by some of the "established" PI's) can be just a wee-bit more potent than they. I am always willing to take the stand (250+ cases); are they also willing to do so?

Look, IPIU may bill you for every little thing. But can you start a business without any outside assistance, yourself? Although IPIU is not a welfare program - it is, rather, a self-assistance program. The union needs to pay their personnel, rent, bills, etc (it's called fixed-costs). Some people want it free? Then try creativeimpacts (com).

I, for one, like IPIU's approach. It makes good business sense. I get to pay in small, affordable increments. IPIU just doesn't place your regions into extreme competitive environments; it helps you combat those same extreme competitive environments. Trust 'em (IPIU), please.

My point too, except I will add "All Good will be attacked". To think not, would be naive.

Why? Because my research shows that IPIU has only been around for the last decade or so, and that some associations and some "PI Schools" fear IPIU's Mission Statement (http://www.ipiu.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=13864). I feel their fear comes from losing their dollars to a better, more organized union that offers more benefits for less money. Does that make sense?

My research also shows that IPIU has some critics. Without any critics, IPIU would not have anything to offer to anyone! Anyone or any organization that offers so much Good should always have a few critics, don't you think?

As an American, I have millions of critics whenever I leave the country! But does that mean my country, as a whole, is not worthy to be a country for the 300 million of us? Then why should IPIU be any different as a worldwide organization.

If you are a union member of IPIU, or a non-union member who has a free forum membership here, then you would have had to agree to IPIU's Code of Ethics (http://www.ipiu.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=12447). Have you read your copy lately? Would you honor and defend your Code of Ethics (http://www.ipiu.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=12447)? If not, then I doubt you would earn my respect as a citizen of your own country, whether America or otherwise. Why agree to support what you purport to believe in, if you would not defend it?

Have you read the Forum Rules (http://www.ipiu.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=2914) you agreed to? Probably not, as I did not. All I know is that I agreed to them, but after reading them I found that I have never seen a stricter set of rules that govern the conduct of it's members anywhere I have been. Why? Because Greatness requires Great People to be Great. If you want an easy association or an easy PI School or an easy life, then go elsewhere. There are plenty out there for a cheap price of expectation of it's members. I see that the International Private Investigators Union requires greatness in respect to it's members, as well as it's members showing respect to all others, regardless of their beliefs.

I have explored the many forums and comments and features of this website for sometime, and I have seen massive improvements since I first came three years ago. IPIU keeps getting better every month! What other association or PI school can claim that?

And that is another point that the critics fear, namely that IPIU will ultimately reach a worldwide status that no one can touch!

Respectfully,

Michael

[Barbara Bacon -]

Michael,
Thank you for sharing all your research and comments. I had some initial doubs, but as I read thru these forums and see the new people joining daily, I am glad I am a member.
Onto my next step.
thanks again for the positive comments.
regards,
Barb

[Technical Support]

Michael,
Thank you for sharing all your research and comments. I had some initial doubs, but as I read thru these forums and see the new people joining daily, I am glad I am a member.
Onto my next step.
thanks again for the positive comments.
regards,
Barb
The majority of members obviously take the time to read and participate. A few become disenchanted because they refuse to take the time to read and participate.

[Petra Post]

Today you have to be careful what you get into... too many 00000 around. When I first came up on the International Private Investigators Union, I looked at it carefully before I made a decision to join. So far I have not had no regrets about that. Everything they offer, is up to us to take or leave, nobody twisting no arms. I for one am very happy to be part of this union. Thanks everybody at IPIU.

[Heather Burnett]

Michael,
Thank you for your post and sharing your feelings about IPIU. Your passion is evident throughout the message. I am new to IPIU and to private investigating. I am going to start slow and gather as much information as possible. I would like to know a few things about you. How long have you been a private investigator? Are you "freelance" or do you work for an agency? After reviewing all of IPIU's resources did you feel comfortable representing yourself as a PI? Did you get your first job through IPIU? I have more questions, but I do not want to harass you. Your message was so impactful that I felt like you might share some information with me.

Heather

[Kevin-- Nathaniel]

Michael,

Very well stated. I share the same sentiments as you. IPIU is a great place for any level PI. The help and assistance creates a family atmosphere that I have not seen duplicated anywhere else.

Kevin Nathaniel

[Ivan Delgado-Orlic--]

Micheal,

Thank you for posting this thread. I agree with wholeheartedly and wished that more institutions (and as you elude to, countries or just individuals) would uphold higher standards.

Sincerely,

[Roberta A Bryant]

I enjoyed reading another member's comment why he finds the International Private Investigators Union (IPIU) one of the best associations, based on his professional opinion.

Read his comments:


My point too, except I will add "All Good will be attacked". To think not, would be naive.

Why? Because my research shows that IPIU has only been around for the last decade or so, and that some associations and some "PI Schools" fear IPIU's Mission Statement (http://www.ipiu.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=13864). I feel their fear comes from losing their dollars to a better, more organized union that offers more benefits for less money. Does that make sense?

My research also shows that IPIU has some critics. Without any critics, IPIU would not have anything to offer to anyone! Anyone or any organization that offers so much Good should always have a few critics, don't you think?

As an American, I have millions of critics whenever I leave the country! But does that mean my country, as a whole, is not worthy to be a country for the 300 million of us? Then why should IPIU be any different as a worldwide organization.

If you are a union member of IPIU, or a non-union member who has a free forum membership here, then you would have had to agree to IPIU's Code of Ethics (http://www.ipiu.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=12447). Have you read your copy lately? Would you honor and defend your Code of Ethics (http://www.ipiu.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=12447)? If not, then I doubt you would earn my respect as a citizen of your own country, whether America or otherwise. Why agree to support what you purport to believe in, if you would not defend it?

Have you read the Forum Rules (http://www.ipiu.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=2914) you agreed to? Probably not, as I did not. All I know is that I agreed to them, but after reading them I found that I have never seen a stricter set of rules that govern the conduct of it's members anywhere I have been. Why? Because Greatness requires Great People to be Great. If you want an easy association or an easy PI School or an easy life, then go elsewhere. There are plenty out there for a cheap price of expectation of it's members. I see that the International Private Investigators Union requires greatness in respect to it's members, as well as it's members showing respect to all others, regardless of their beliefs.

I have explored the many forums and comments and features of this website for sometime, and I have seen massive improvements since I first came three years ago. IPIU keeps getting better every month! What other association or PI school can claim that?

And that is another point that the critics fear, namely that IPIU will ultimately reach a worldwide status that no one can touch!

Respectfully,

Michael

Michael,
I think everyone has doubts in things they do not know but it is people like you that take a stand and voice their opinion that help us the new comers have more confidence in the choice they have made. Thank you for that Michael. And I do believe I speak for a lot of other out there
Roberta
AKA Robin ;)

[Ada Baciu]

It's good to be skeptical.Like Petra said, there are way to many 00000 around. The bottom is it's your fault if you get 0000000 if you didn't research it enough.

[Jimmy Jordan -]

I applaud IPIU's professionalism. There will be critics no matter where you go or what you do but IPIU has a very good record and I'm completely satisfied with the services they offer.

You can pay $400 - $1000 for a "home study" course, or, I've seen one company that will set up a "PI business" for you for a mere $5000.

IPIU offers training through the forums and will find you paid assignments for a fraction of the cost.

In my opinion, determination and patience are the keys to success in this business and the process IPIU uses builds determination and patience.

[Verleria Watson]

Michael,

Thanks for sharing your wealth of knowledge with us. I can say - love what you do. I know that whatever you do, there are critics - but always the "Facts" remain.

IPIU is a great company. I have a friend who has been in this business for about 3 years and to my advantage she has never heard of this company. When I shared it with her she was really amazed! I know as I stay in tune to this channel she will be watching and I welcome her and others to this channel. It is so informative and every single day I learn something important. Keep up the good work!

Verleria

[Paul Shuman]

So far, no complaints. IPIU has lived up to it's promise. From what I can see, you do your part, and the union will do theirs.

[Karen McQuilken]

Micheal,
I agree with what others have written. i have been a member for alsomost a year, and i have NO bad comments to make about IPIU. They have been great with all my needs. Not to mention they have lived up to ALL their promises. We are all one family here and work well together.

[Tracy Perez]

This is all so reassuring ..You know how people are. But i feel confident that this is for me . I am ready to start a new career. Thank you for your encouraging words.

[Larry Schlack]

Good Post, Good Points.

As most of you I have seen criticism of the IPIU. One of the places was a website for a PI School (A neighbor of the IPIU to boot) where they bashed the IPIU, but also ALL the other PI schools. It is obvious in that instance that the criticizm was ALL unfounded and prompted only by greed to entice those who wont do their own research.

As a member of this forum (either free or paid union member) we are all interested in investigation work. We all need to do a little investigation of our own before we sign on (to anything). Thats what we do, thats what we like to do, thats why we're here.

Spending a little time here you get to see there are persons prospering here, mostly if you notice it is those who are participating. I'm pretty new here but enjoying what i've found so far, and looking forward to an opportunity at some of those assignments.

Good job IPIU, great job forum members. As the organization grows so will it's abilities to support it's members. I look forward to being here to see it grow even further.

regards,
larry

[Viki Hostek]

Well this is certainly taking some investigation work for sure.

[Eloisa Mooney]

Awwwhhh I love this thread. This is so true, all good things do get looked at and stomped on once in a while. My experience while strolling some websites out in Internet Land was like stubbing your big toe. I ran across some negative remarks by an individual about IPIU and then some positive remarks by someone who actually offers career opportunities to those of us here at IPIU trying to make a difference.

I loved peeking into this conversation because it grounded me. I discovered the individual who made the negative remark was from a competing business. The world is big enough so that all should be able to make it. His insecurity was such a turn off and he made himself and his company look worst.

AkunaMatada :)

[Joanne DeHerrera]

I am just going to jump in this and state my opinion thus so far.

I have been a member now for about a month and I love it. Sure I have looked unto the many stupid allegations that others have said about IPIU, but my conclusion is this;

If anyone feels that they are going to get the great P.I. job for $89.00 they are confused. (It is a membership with the benefits of being in a forum and belonging to what I believe is a great Organization.) I belong to FALI (Florida Association of Licensed Investigators), and let me tell you that I pay seriously more money that $89.00 per year to belong, and so far with my membership in just a short month I have been to fancy dinners and they have already asked me for donations. Do I like this? Sure I love it because it is called NETWORKING. I have already received major contacts. Ok I had to pay the big bucks to eat great food, and drive hours just to get there, but to me the long term effects will out due anything that I have already put into it. We have to at most times - always invest to become the major investor.

I believe so far in my own investigations about the P.I. business and IPIU is that as with anything in life one must actively seek and find their own plan of action for becoming a P.I.

It is like my self – I spent 28 grand on a college education, and did I expect that the college would find me (that great job in the sky)! No! I knew that I had to actively seek my own path and career. I did, however I changed my path as some of you well may know into the P.I. field and since becoming a free forum member I have fellowshipped and learned about my great new career though all of you.

I am going to become a member and I will be proud to be one!


Sorry I had to vent because of a web site I was just on about IPIU and the stupidity of people just amazes me sometimes.


Peace everyone
Joanne DeHerrera

[Silvia A Andrade]

The participation from everyone has taught me many things. It is true that there is always going to be that one person who is jealous of what another accomplishes. IPIU is a place that I found by mistake, but I am glad that I did. I was skeptical at first just like many people out there, but it looks like the choice I made was the correct one. Thank You everyone!

[Benjamin Woolley]

I have just been here about a day. When I first saw the Code of Ethics and Forum Rules thread, my eyebrow raised a bit, but the more I look, the more that it just appears to be an indication of how detailed this website is. It reminds me of why I like working on BSD operating systems: the documentation is great, and it is organized with great care. It is like a powerful tool that helps you do your job, maintaining your career. That is what I expect from a union as well. The thorough Code of Ethics is a breath of fresh air, personally. Centralized things have a tendency to corrupt. A strong Code of Ethics is essential for it to grow. I haven't looked at some of the details of how it is run yet, but it looks good so far. This place has some of the best documentation on how to use the system that I have ever seen.

I have also been an administrator and co-owner for a fairly big (>5000 member) forum. Well-run forums can be extremely effective for learning about a common interest. The rules I had were much more liberal, but it was just a social hangout, and the drama was a feature, not a bug. I have first-hand experience why many of the rules were written; especially those about forums not being a democracy, and members being invited guests. So many people thought that free speech meant that they had some right to not be censored or banned from a private server.

[Patti Schubert -]

I haven't been a member here at IPIU for very long. The more I read and learn the more impressed I am with them. This organization has a lot to be proud of and I'm greatful to be a part of it.

Pat :)

[Jeffrey Roemer]

My name is Jeffrey Roemer and I am new to the Union. I must admit I like what I see so far. It's nice to be among dedicated professionals.

[Allister Horton]

Micheal Iam sorry but you lost me for awhile, after reading farther. I realized where you were going IPIU is the best thing since sliced bread.

[Melvin Leonard Houck]

I think I am seeing some of the prejudices against membership in the union. I can't say this for sure, but I will keep you posted.

[Larry J Catoe]

IPIU has proven itself to me by meaning what they say and more importantly doing what they say they're going to do. It is a joy and a pleasure being a part of IPIU.

[Ken L Thompson]

It is safe to say there will always be critics, it is the world we live in. IPIU is by far the best I have come across. I belive it will gain an international status.

Ken

[Charlotte Brooks]

I am glad I joined IPIU...for it will make my new year one of the best, and most productive ones yet!!!

<a href='http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb008_ZSYYYYYYYYUS' target='_blank'><img src='http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/4/4_1_204.gif' border=0></a>

[Katrina Burton Todd]

I am very happy that I joined IPIU, it has worked for me just as they said it would work. Although, a small percentage of people may have had a different experence. I think it is outstanding and glad to be a part of IPIU.

[Dale Cohen]

I have been on the forum for less than a month, however, during this time I have learned a great deal. The various people that I have met on the forums have been great in showing me where to go to find the information that I needed. I am very pleased in joining IPIU and look forward to a long working relationship with them.

[Darryl Hines]

thatsfor your insight, ipiu appears to be astrong very supportive PI tool, your comments in my minimum experience since i am a new member is right - on, ipiu code i feel will ensure only professional commited, ethical members are allowed within this organization. your positive comments and you research results and experience are welcomed. thank you,
darryl hines

[Patrice-Maria Love]

I have learned a great deal in these wonderful forums. This is one of the best teaching tools that people interested in the pi profession can have. Everytime I attend a forum, I learn pertinent knowledge!
Patrice-Maria

[David La Rue]

Michael
I understand all the rules and i am glad you put the thread up on the board I have been in the Military for the last 29 Years and I retire in March 05, Your comments and everyone thats at IPIU has hepl me decide that this is what I want to do for the rest of my life. Thank You
David

[Millie Peever]

I to was a little unsure about joining, but those fears have vanished. IPIU is such a great learning tool, and at your own pace there is so much to learn. I for one am loving this job.

[Darryl Hines]

:) i received your responses / threads regarding forums. everyone i talk to seem to enjoy the forums and highly recommend visiting one. i plan to visit as many forums i can in 2005, to improve my growth as a member of the ipiu. everyone in this union are more than willing to help trainees like my self to grow in this profession. i think we have all made the right decision joining the ipiu
Darryl Hines
PI Trainee :D :) :D

[Darryl Hines]

i received your thread, thanks for responding. i agree this union is the best. everyone is so helpful, and work to guide trianees to the right path in becoming a part of the union / profession. i also one of the other tools i appreciate are networking and communication between trainee and licensed professionals. i will try to attend as many forums as i can in 2005. hope to see you there.
Darryl Hines

[Darryl Hines]

michael,
thanks for your insight, i agree with your threads and this union
Darryl Hines
PI-Trainee

[Allister Horton]

I really appreciated your comments, I remeber when I first joined the IPIU I was so lost but their is always some to help. I love it and there is no doubt about it I know this is what I will do the rest of my life. If I can help email me I live to help some one else.

[Don Pederson]

I too agree that all good will be attacked!!

I am new here and just starting my career and honestly if I didn't find IPIU I don't know how I would of started in this field. The people in these forums are very warm and welcoming into the "family" it's great to have that when your started a new career! :)

I've seen other websites post negitive things about IPIU, but I all I can say is that I am here and not there, so keep up the great work IPIU.

Cheers
Don

[Allister Horton]

Welcome aboard Don we are glad to have you. Thanks for your encouraging comments we strive for advancement with IPIU.....

[Don Pederson]

Thanks Allister for the welcome. :)

[Pedro Ruiz -]

Hi My Name Is Pedro Ruiz And Im Happy To Be Here With You Guys.

[Katrina Burton Todd]

Michael,

Thank you for sharing this information. Their is a wealth of knowledge that can be learned here. Sometimes people get impatient and don't want to look for information. But reading through the forums 99% of the time your questions can be answered.

[Robert A Smith]

I, too, am glad to have come across the IPIU! I always had an interest in this field, but thought you had to have previous law enforcement experience to get into it. I was amazed to find out otherwise. I joined the union a short time ago and everything as gone as stated so far!

Bob

[Shawn Atkinson -]

I am very new to the IPIU, and it can be very challenging at first, but if you take the time to read and learn, you get a better understanding of what this organization is all about.

I have over 12 years experience in the security field (law-enforcement, military, security and sureveillance). I know that this experience may help me but you have to crawl before you can learn to walk, and you have to learn to walk before you can learn to run. I encourage all new members to pace yourselves and take things in stride.

I wish everyone luck in attaining their goals.


Shawn

[Henri-Pierre Stephenson]

I have read the derogatory information on the web. I can truly say that my time in the forums has paid off well. I have picked up enough good ideas to pay for my time.

I am going to do my first assignment tomorrow. I have done similar jobs before.

If I get a hit and get paid for it I will have personally proven the naysayers wrong!

Either way, I haven't lost anything.

[Alonzo Stallworth]

:p Michael, thank you so much for sharing this well researched and informative statements and feedback. Shows character on your part and the willingness to prove true what you do. ;) I'm new to this endeavor and I believe that with patience and due diligence there is success to be had here. Thank you for reinforcing that mindset :D Reading your qualifying statement has given me another shot of enthusiasm for pursuing this type experience. :cool: Keep up the good work and know that with God ALL things are truly possible.

[Deborah Springer]

Kudos for all the positive comments for IPIU! I had to review what the "issues" were also because I was skeptical. As in everything, you investigate, and come to your own conclusions! I have been on the forums for about 2 days, and I am impressed the experienced network of people. Everyone is professional, respectful and knowledgeable, and will to assist us trainees! Thanks for a great experience!

[Kenneth Owens -]

I am very happy with ipiu. I looked over ipiu very closely before joining. I'm enjoying every part of it. I've not completed any assignments or performed one yet because I wasn't sure I was ready. But now I am ready and have enjoyed this union. By July I will remain a member here and nothing can change that. Thanks for everything IPIU I have learned alot from your site.

[Angie Falzon]

I am very happy with IPIU....The membership is low cost and I am learning a lot while I am waiting for assignments.

[Maria Miller]

Michael,

I am a new to the forum. Thanks for sharing your comments with everyone.

[Michele R. Schibi--]

I am so happy to be a part of the Union. Everyone is so helpful & once I understood navigating the forums it has been a great learning tool. The IPIU is helping me launch forward into a new career. I'm grateful to all that have made the Union possible.

[Edwin Garcia -]

I agree, I am lucky to have found this union and such an organized and disciplined organization. God knows how many have probably been dissappointed with a school and promised castles in the sky. I for one have noticed that this Union gives a lot to its members. We can find oodles of information and learn for ourselves how to do tasks that might come our way in the future. I admit, I was tentative about reading so much and doing everything myself. But it's what we have to learn, to do things ourselves with some but not total assistance. Thank you all for your contributions to this website and let's show those critics that they are just blowing smoke.

:D

[Nicole Marlin]

This is a great thread. The fact that most of are hands on "I want to see it for myself" people is a plus. I love the professional demeanors and outstanding attitudes is very impressive. I am glad to be a part of IPIU! I saw a few comments that were a bit disturbing but you always have some negative attitude where ever you. I have found that the more someone does not understand something (i.e., not reading and understanding the process at IPIU) the more frustrated they seem to get. I hope that everyone finds what answers they seek. This is a great place.

[David Copeland]

I saw a few comments that were a bit disturbing but you always have some negative attitude wherever you. When I come across those type of comments on other websites, I leave. There is so much to choose from on the internet and my own attitude needs to remain in tact without having it affected by what I call trash-talk.

[Shawna Perkins]

There is an abundance of information located on this forum. What a great way to have an orientation!!

[Heather A Jones]

I am learning a great deal as I go. Thanks all for your input and dedication!

[James S MacDuff-]

I suppose I could echo so many sentiments I've read on this particular topic: Indeed, I do second all the good opinions here.

As for naysayers, plug into a top search engine, your favorite religious diety (whether you be christian, muslim, buddhist, etc), and you will find negative connotations. My point? Even what you'd usually view as a pure/positive subject on this Earth, you'll have those whom have their own negative opinion: It matters not, the subject. You can't please everyone all the time.

I've been a business professional the last 10 years, and have brushed across lots of different industries. You don't have to be a professor to recognize professionalism when it sits in front of you. In my very short period of time I've gotten nothing but sincere votes of confidence and offers of help. I said it in another posting: "Surround yourself with like attitudes..."

[Christopher S McCush-]

I couldn't agree with you more, while I have not posted much, that is because when I have a question it is usually answered somewhere else by someone else having the same question!! It seems to me there two types of bad comments people, the ones who are in competition and the ones who want everything handed to them, (those are the type of comments I have seen) the competition ones are "shooting themselves in the foot" and the others; well need to learn that everything worth something comes at a price and it is not always monetary

[Ty Hege]

I have only been here 2 days but so far I have found the information helpful and everyone friendly.

[Maday Llerena]

I have learned a lot since I joined IPIU; by reading, interacting and interchanging ideas with other members. I'm really happy I joined IPIU.

[Harrison Cowan]

The IPIU has provided me an opportunity to really get out into the field and see if the investigative world is something I really want to get into. Thanks to the IPIU I now KNOW that the investigative world is where I want to be. I've got the education part down but I have had problems getting hands on experience in the field. That all changed when I joined the IPIU. The experience I'm getting is supplementing my education and makes for a very impressive resume. Thanks IPIU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'd recommend this organization to anyone who is interested in this line of work.

[Justin Wheatley]

I too was questioning the process after I first signed up. I honestly thought they were just after my money. But after only being a member for about a month now, I have a completely different outlook. I am already beginning to learn and understand the process and steps that are needed to become successful in this field. I realize I am still at the tip of the iceberg but look foward to much more. I think it is a good idea to keep the critics in mind. This is a good way to make future improvements, if needed.

JW

[Janet Barrett]

Thank you to all of you who have taken the time to write such in-depth, positive viewpoints. Its helping me to make the decision to join. Jnaet

[Janet Barrett]

Thank you to all of you who have taken the time to write such in-depth, insightful viewpoints. Its very helpful to those of us on the fence as to whether to jump in and join....Janet

[Robin L Collins]

I had initial doubts about IPIU credibilty and effectiveness, but they were all diminished after some research. I only am continually impressed with the organization and in-depth attention put into this Union. It first felt to good to be true, but it is TRUE.

Robin

[Thomas J Nicol]

"All Good will be attacked". To think not, would be naive.

Why? Because my research shows that IPIU has only been around for the last decade or so, and that some associations and some "PI Schools" fear IPIU's Mission Statement (http://www.ipiu.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=13864). I feel their fear comes from losing their dollars to a better, more organized union that offers more benefits for less money. Does that make sense?Michael, you couldn't have hit the nail more squarely on the head. :cool: The "new kid on the block" is always open to ridicule by those who think they have it all.
My research also shows that IPIU has some critics. Without any critics, IPIU would not have anything to offer to anyone! Anyone or any organization that offers so much Good should always have a few critics, don't you think?Well said. :)

If you are a union member of IPIU, or a non-union member who has a free forum membership here, then you would have had to agree to IPIU's Code of Ethics (http://www.ipiu.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=12447). Have you read your copy lately? Would you honor and defend your Code of Ethics (http://www.ipiu.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=12447)? It get a periodic reading, every word.

Have you read the Forum Rules (http://www.ipiu.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=2914) you agreed to? That gets looked at regularly.

I have explored the many forums and comments and features of this website for sometime, and I have seen massive improvements since I first came three years ago. IPIU keeps getting better every month! What other association or PI school can claim that? None, that I have found. :cool:
And that is another point that the critics fear, namely that IPIU will ultimately reach a worldwide status that no one can touch!
Interestingly enough, that is very near.

Thank again for your offering. Well written and well stated. ;)

TJ

[Janet Barrett]

wow...what a huge disappointment....you do only post positives.....he was right....

[Donna Reagan]

wow...what a huge disappointment....you do only post positives.....he was right....
No true, Janet. Read your personal introduction where it was moved.

[Fakeisha Wright]

I am glad I joined. if I had not, I probably would not have come across a company that I do jobs for and it is a decent experience. I find IPIU very resourceful.

[Craig W Miller -]

As I was completing an internet search into these "schools" I noted that one in particular listed the UNION as a "scham" The thing is that I wonder just how many individuals like myself, read thier statement and wanted to find out for themselves. That is exactly how I found the Union. After reading thier comments "bashing" the Union, I wanted to know for myself.......Here I am. I rather enjoy the union forums and will eventually pay for membership. Sometimes, all thier efforts to bash an organization, backfires on them.

[Mike Bower]

I to had read some of these comments. I did some research and decided that what I read were some peoples own opinions and thoughts, which they are entitled to. I then kept reading posts and saw that there are so many professionals posting here that I was onto something good.
I'm sure some of you know me by now from my posting and I just want to say that, yes, IPIU has its critics, but it has given me the knowledge to decide that this is what I want to do to better my life and my familys life. I know that this won't happen over night, but with all the support I get here I know I'll acheive my goal.
With that in mind I thank all who are "family" for their continued support and inspiration.

[Lisa Holmes]

I must admit that when my co-worker told me about IPIU, I was very skeptical because about a year or two ago, I was very, very interested in becoming a Bounty Hunter.

So I searched the websites and found this one company *****. I did a dumb thing, they asked for money so they could send me the test and other materials....I sent it and got nothing. After they got my money, they never answered the phone again from me. So, I felt this IPIU had to be another sham as the bounty hunter sham

But I did a little reading in the forums, then more, then I thought....well if they are a sham, I'm getting some great info. and knowledge free so far.

I kept reading, and reading......then I said to my co-worker.....this is great and I'm ready to get my membership, and I did...but I must say at first the process confused and lost me, then I got frustrated enough to quit, but I'm no Quitter!

Then I got hooked on reading, and reading, and reading........then I realized that no matter how much you know, no matter how many degrees you have, no matter how much experience you have, no matter how long you been in this field of work......you will learn something new EVERYDAY in these forums!!

I started in August 2005 and now I'm Level III Licensed Professional.

I don't know when the change comes in my title, but Agent Relations told me Friday. Yes, I cheated because of my Professional License.....but I earned it... ;) .

I just want to say Atta Boy....IPIU!!!! Thanks to everyone that has written and educated me everytime I read. All the money I have paid is well worth the knowledge I received.

Take care and always be safe!

[Steven Lofing]

It amazes me to see so many people from all geographic regions come together and help promote each other. Thanks to all, Thanks to our Moderators for steering up back in the right direction sometimes.

[Ashley Mayne--]

The good thing about IPIU is that they are willing to accept and ultimately fix any fault or problem that arrises. To my knowledge, IPIU welcomes debate and no one has been censored here. Their comments are sometimes moved to an appropriate thread but not removed.

Well done team.

[Lynne Knight]

The friendliness and professionalism I experienced during my first two days here in the forums, wiped away any tiny little doubts I had about joining this wonderful group of people. The assistance from members and staff is unmatched. I suppose if we didn’t have any doubters here occasionally, we wouldn’t be quite as quick to sing the praises of IPIU, TRULY!

[Cheryl Mason -]

My regret about IPIU is I signed up originally in May of 2004 and things happened where I couldn't pursue it. I realize things happen for a reason and I am glad I am able to continue my dream now. :cool:

[Maria Lu]

I was looking for a job all over the world, when I found the site of IPIU. Before that, my head continued feeling the hit of an automatic screwdriver.

Since I became a part of this forum, I began to feel like there's millions of friendly people around me (from where I sit). In other words, "I don't feel all alone anymore".

It's true all good will be attacked. But don't give up to raise the greatest flag in the world. Even if you fall, many times or got beat up many times...get up!!!!....stand by me then keep moving on, and raise that flagas higher as it is that represent who you are, how you do, what you have, why you're here, where you beenwhen you come and goes for better or worse.

[David Copeland]

...to raise the greatest flag in the world. Funny you should mention that, IPIU has a project pending to order Flags and Banners of the union. :)

[James Bone]

I have been a IPIU Union member a little over 1 1/2 yrs and have not found a site where the staff, and members help each other as much as they do here. I have made well over 10x's my union membership dues. Thanks, and keep on keeping on IPIU.

[Jackie Stewart]

I joined last year and started doing some video piracy assignments, and finally took the leap to get my training license. I'm glad now that I did. I feel that it was a good decision for me at this particular stage of my life.

[Rogaciano Garcia]

There will always will be persons that agreed with IPIU ethics, but like it is a very good learning site where everybody shares their comments, and the code of ethics is very important to follow it.

[Regina D Barnett]

I concur

[Liz Mason]

You know all areas have their critics. Food Critics, Movie Critics, Hotel Critics, Travel Critics, so why should the I.P.I.U. be any different? I say bring it on. Just because one person has a bad experience or was not serious about what they wanted and decided to be negative about the I.P.I.U., does not mean that others will find the same. In fact just reading this thread will verify the findings of more positive critics than negative.

I.P.I.U. has taken the good, bad & ugly and turned it all into the good to benefit us all. It is up to us as an individual to decide if we are going to make use of the positive information or let the little bit of negativity turn us away. I believe that we have proven that the I.P.I.U. is the positive and mutually beneficial way to go.

As with life, it takes all kinds to make the world go around. I personally feel blessed to be a part of such a warm, kind, understanding and professional family.

We should not simply ignore the negative, which I.P.I.U. has not done so, as they have listened to the negatives yet turned everything into a positive. There is always something to be learned from negatives. Just bear in mind some people are not happy unless they are complaining or whining about something, so I say let them do their (bleeped out) and we will all out number them, always.

This is simply my own opinion, agree or not. We all have our own way of looking at things and who is to say who is right and who is wrong?

I am proud to be associated with the I.P.I.U. and look forward to many years to come.

[Alain Disse]

Liz, and everybody ...

I agree ... During around 30 years, I was working for a "honnest" company ...

A few months later, I saw they placed "some" money into the Madoff's scheme !!! :(
Just after, they said that the shops "are loosing money" ... restructuration ... and people "ejected" ... :( :( :(

That's why I learned to become a Private Investigator ... Including Frauds, Cyber-Criminality, ...

I.P.I.U. , is an International Union. If Everybody works correctly, it is a Great Family :)

Bye & at next ...

Michel

[Stephen Douglass]

To all:

While I have not read every single response to this tread, I have skimmed the majority of them. There are 84, some short and to the point, some lengthy and to the point. I have never entered into anything without researching the thing.

I came to IPIU by accident really, Stumbling across it while researching PI laws for NY. I for one am glad I found it.

My Father (an arson investigator for 25+ years) used to tell me there are NO true accidents. Perhaps it was intervention on a higher plane, perhaps it was a subconscious "click". After finding the IPIU and reading what I was aloud to read as both temp-guest and then looking into this organization, doggedly cross referencing one of the investigator members of the IPIU here in NY, who is also a member of NALI, one of the best and hardest organizations to belong to, with many others emulating there policies and requirements. When I saw this, coupled with the services I myself was in search of, I knew I'd come home.

There are no other organizations offering what IPIU offers.

Need help with legal concerns for your state? it's here.
Need to have a 3rd party verification of hours for licensing? Done.
Need to vent over a case that isn't going your way? I'm listening.
The list goes on.

I can not speak for any one but myself, and I have been here but a short time, I can say that I have "Sisters" in Africa, "Brothers" in Brazil, U.K., and parents in, well, well apparently in syberspace. ( Had to have some tension breaker). It's only my opinion but I was compelled to ad to this thread. Do not tread blindly into any endeavor,

thank you for the opportunity

Stephen J Douglass process server to the "stars".