Off-topic comments

[Ms. Lyn Thiebe]

to any and all above about Alabama please check out the forums for Alabama Licensing along with http://www.apia-online.com and there is great significance to the future of Professional Investigators in Alabama. We at the Association are trying hard to raise the standards of licensing in Montgomery. Yes, the stories of those in the Alabama state that are the 'want to be's' are what they deserve if they haven't researched and done thier homework. So the standards are going to be raised its just a matter of time.

Hey Micheal need any help in the Lower Alabama area? give me a call or email. Thanks.

[Michael Hudson -]

Lyn;

Re; your comments Alabama Licensing. I hope ypu are right in regards to Alabama taking a hard look at licensing. I have been licensed in three states and had to undergo a lot of requirements inclusive of two week course regardless of my other licenses and being a retired Fed. A lot of these "Wanna Bees" think it's a big joke. They get themselves in trouble and make the rest of the industry look bad. I do not care who you are and how many degrees you have in criminology,etc., there has to be a state regulated requirermen inclusive of the establishment of education and training reuirements with no waivers. There must be some type of testing requirement, there should be like many states, an "INTERNSHIP" attached to someone with a state approved AGENCY LICENSE. The requirements for an Agency License must be established and not pay a $25.00 fee for a license and congradulations you are now a "Mickey Spilane" Can you blame local state and federal law enforcement for their attitude towards private investigators?

I notice a lot of peopleo on this forum ask info re; states that do not require licensing. The bottom line to those who wish to seek a career in the world of investigations is, get educated in the field of investigations. Study the U.S. Constitution and the Bill of Rights and take them seriously. Without the knowledge one becomes very vulnerable to fines and incarcerations due the lack thererof.

Regards

[Ms. Lyn Thiebe]

Yes, Michael and to others who realize this profession has had its 'rap' of bad portrayed in the media and ect..

professional standards are everything! not to be questioned lightly I take the Code of Ethics seriously with IPIU and the APIA associations and continue such each day.

The further education I have had with distance learning bachelor of science degree were outstanding! a great appreciate went into time-management and organizational skills. To learn, read, research and develope papers for the Constitutional Rights and Constitutional Law courses were outstanding, especially for further educational interest for me, anyways. We take time to learn and we achieve and succeed. I highly recommend all who have no clue of what they are signing onto with this profession to research, research, research. Local libraries, to professionals in the field, to great portrayals on-line and media. The truth not the glamour. Respect and dignity are everything in this field. Stay honest and complete what is expected of you.

Yes, Alabama Professional Investigators Association is highly recommending and introducing the concept of internship or apprenticeship to the legislature of Alabama. It's an interesting journey to say the least. I believe Alabama has no choice but to step up and raise the standards..to much 'shoddy' work and this takes up time in courtrooms, ect.

yes, Michael and others I do realize why our law enforcement and others get so upset with the unprofessionals of this field, in Alabama. The bar will be raised its just a matter of time.

(thank you Michael for the number I will call shortly)

[Michael Hudson -]

Thanks for the response re; my comment. The good times are coming to an end and the sooner the better. Most of us who have been licensed in other states had to go through the stringent reqirements of internships with a state licensed and legislated agency or come from a long line of of credentials such as Federal Agents and local law enforcement. etc. Even with years of experience, every day is a new day with no stop in knowledge. The bottom lines get educated in the field and do not count on paying a small fee for a business and occupational license and say I am in Investigator. Law offices will take a real serious look at you before they do business.

And again, Alabama does not have a state legislated license yet, however again, you must have a State Occupational License for an Investigator. For the benefit of anyone who still doubt this requirement, suggest you contact the Office of Attorney General of Alabama who will confirm what has already been passed.

[Ann Marie Ryan]

I have cleaned up the other topic somewhat, now that we have a new Alabama Licencing topic.

Level 4 Gold members are free to exchange emails and phone numbers in the Level 4 forums and not here.

Lyn, I updated your signature to include your website (which has all of your contact information).

Michael, union members receive the IPIU Seal and an upgraded signature to promote their business and website. You are currently Level 1-Professional. You may wish to look at our membership options, of which some are free.

Click here:
http://www.ipiu.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=6542

[Michael Hudson -]

Thank you very much for your info. My Apologies re; tel number. My level 4 is pending. Fed Credentials and copies of likcenses in process of adjudication. Thanks again and sorry for the error.

[Frederick Budde]

Although I haven't worked in Alabama (unless you call Bass fishing work), you two have spoken from my heart. I see a lot of (young) people trying to get into the business without realizing the responsibility that goes with it. You simply have to pay your dues. Education is naturally, a great benefit, but nothing takes the place of a little hands on experience. Yes, I'm a working Federal Agent, but that doesn't mean I know the various State penal codes, etc. We have to keep learning and working. That's it for my soap box for now. Have a great career!

Fred

:)

[Michael Hudson -]

Fred,

I concur. Being Ret. Agent. It seems that people just have to realize that experience does not come overnight and that every day is a learning experience. All the criminalology degrees etc. just does not supercede real world experience. Although it is an excelent start. The field is expanding every day with new technogies available to us and certqainll is a lot of room for good people to take an interest in this so important social disclipine.

Sincerely

[Shannon Marble]

Checking with the attorney generals office is a great idea. thanks.