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Technical Support
11-15-2003, 11:16 AM
Groping issue lingers:
A spat erupted last week between Schwarzenegger and state Attorney General Bill Lockyer over the allegations made by 16 women late in the campaign that the actor had groped them. He apologized then for "rowdy" behavior. After winning, he dismissed the matter as "old news."
Lockyer, 62, was friendly after the election. The Democrat said he had voted for Schwarzenegger. And he minimized the alleged sexual misconduct as "frat-boy behavior." But last week, Lockyer said the issue was "not going away" and that Schwarzenegger should agree to an investigation.
Schwarzenegger said he'll hire a private investigator. Newspaper columnists hooted at how objective his own investigation would be.
Eight of Schwarzenegger's first 15 appointees are women. Spokesman Rob Stutzman denies that the allegations influenced the selections.
source: usatoday.com
Dragos Sfinteanu
11-24-2003, 03:11 PM
Arnold Schwarzenegger
Mr. Bill Lockyer suddently became eager for an investigation concerning Arnold Schwarzenegger’s 20-yr old misconduct.
In my opinion the reason appears obvious, starting from the level of an average High School student. Why all 16 women made their allegations now? They could do it when the facts allegedly happened, more than 20 years ago, when Schwarzenegger was rich enough to reimburse them for the harm done. Or latter on, when he became a millionaire. Paula Jones did not wait so long. She got her million at a level much more elevated than the new Governor of California. The explanations in this respect could probably be offered by the Private Investigator hired by Mr.Schwarzenegger.
Besides the average HS student, people who read newspapers still remember the 2002 California elections, when former Governor Davis campaigned against Bill Simon. At a moment there were rumours in the media that Arnold Schwarzenegger could enter the race, followed by “counter-rumours” threatening the movie-star with a “secret weapon”- the revelation of his “sins of the past”, specifically sexual misconduct. At that time Schwarzenegger did not enter the campaign. He entered the 2003 race to recall Governor Davis. After becoming the front runner, the “secret weapons” (i.e. the 16 allegations) were deployed on the battle field. Nobody was really surprised and the Californians voted overwhelmingly for Arnold as the new Governor.
Mr. Bill Lockyer also voted for him (see first posting). Now, he abruptly is changing his mind, asking for an investigation. The explanation, as mentioned above could probably be supplied by the Private Investigator hired in this matter.
I would like to express my opinion, shared by a large number of Californians, that the new Governor should be let to work, to confront the big challenge of the tough and sad heritage of the former Governor. Mr Schwarzenegger needs support, not harassment.
Bryan McManis
11-24-2003, 05:38 PM
Originally posted by Dragos Sfinteanu
Arnold Schwarzenegger
Mr. Bill Lockyer suddently became eager for an investigation concerning Arnold Schwarzenegger’s 20-yr old misconduct.
I would like to express my opinion, shared by a large number of Californians, that the new Governor should be let to work, to confront the big challenge of the tough and sad heritage of the former Governor. Mr Schwarzenegger needs support, not harassment.
Greetings Dragos,
I could not agree more with you on this one. I lived in California for 20 years and basically grew up there. However, I would not want to be in California at this time of trouble.
In spite of my comment I know that it is vital to our economic recovery and even national security that California recover from this situation. California is a leader in many industries that we have no real competition from the world economy. California is the largest and most populated state in the union. It is part of the big three in our union. California, Texas and Florida are the trendsetters in this country for varies reasons. Without California back on board this nation will waffle for quite some time.
The subject of the investigation is a disturbing trend I see happening all to often. If someone has done something wrong in their life (And everyone has.) they should not have it force feed to them 20 years after the fact. If he had done this in the last 5 years it would be a valid issue to bring up. But 20 years… give me a break.
Sincerely,
Dragos Sfinteanu
11-25-2003, 01:01 PM
Hi Bryan,
Yes, you are right. There are tough times now for California: over 200,000 jobs lost in the last three years (most of them IT), unemployment rate above the country average, the recent wildfires in the South,…you name it. In my opinion, what angered the most the Californians was the fact that waking-up one morning, they found out that the state had a 38-billion deficit. This was the droplet that filled the glass, starting the campaign for recalling Gov. Davis. The first governor recalled in California and the second in the nation history, to the best of my recollection.
The new governor brought a fresh wind and hopes. In his first day in office he signed two executive orders and called three legislative sessions. I will mention one of them: the order to repeal the car tax increase. The Davis administration tripled the car tax to get four billion dollars for the ailing budget. Schwarzenegger considered unfair for Californians to pay for errors made in managing the state budget. He said that, if elected, he will repeal the tax increase and instead of rising taxes he will cut unnecessary spending (during last years the media unveiled many high-profile, six-digit positions created by the former administration, that have been low effective for the state). The San Jose Mercury News informed the public that during his last days in office, Gov. Davis planned to reward some close advisers (50 persons) by giving them high-paid jobs in public offices. Arnold warned him to slow down, announcing his intention to “undo” the nominations. Last but not least, he said that he would lead the way out of the state budget crisis by taking no salary (this is a savings of $175,000 a year).
The starting is promising. The people of California see that their screen-action hero also takes action in Sacramento, Capitol Hill.
Regards,
Bryan McManis
11-25-2003, 03:34 PM
Originally posted by Dragos Sfinteanu
Hi Bryan,
The starting is promising. The people of California see that their screen-action hero also takes action in Sacramento, Capitol Hill.
Regards,
Greetings Dragos,
I am glad you took the time to update me on what is going on their in the Eureka state.
The new Governor of California is not going to be able to pull a rabbit out of his hat. However, he doing what is promised the voters he would do. He is being a leader a strong leader. In addition, he is leading by example and by being willing to make sacrifices himself.
Unfortunately, I do not see any other way out the current mess but to pay the piper. And that will mean EVERY person will have to pay some kind of price to get going again.
In closing, for some odd reason this reminds me of when Winston Churchill became a real leader for the survival of his nation.
All the best,
Dragos Sfinteanu
11-25-2003, 04:58 PM
Originally posted by Bryan McManis
In closing, for some odd reason this reminds me of when Winston Churchill became a real leader for the survival of his nation.
I remember his words addressed to Britons when he became their leader: " I promisse you only tears, pain and suffering..."
Fortunately, California is not in the same situation (to be or not to be...) Besides that, we are optimistic.
Have a great Thanksgiving day !
Dragos
Karen K Anderson
11-25-2003, 06:15 PM
As a Californian, may I say that I think Ahnuld probably needs a PI to find his ever-lovin' behind with both hands!
Karen K Anderson
11-25-2003, 07:12 PM
I just downloaded the Licensing packet from the CA State Bureau of Security and Investigative Services in PDF, and they've already got his name as Governor in the upper right hand corner.!I'm just glad =I= ain't the Webmaster for the State!! That's a whole lotta changes he had to do to a whole lotta PDF files! :D
Dragos Sfinteanu
11-27-2003, 01:53 PM
Why so much hatred? I suppose you do realize that this feeling determines an "unusual" language. At the same time, it obstructs the capacity of a clear and fair reasoning, that is essential for a (future) PI .
Schwarzenegger was elected by millions of Californians. You have to accept an evidence, another essential feature of a PI.
Bryan McManis
11-27-2003, 06:07 PM
Originally posted by Dragos Sfinteanu
At the same time, it obstructs the capacity of a clear and fair reasoning, that is essential for a (future) PI .
Schwarzenegger was elected by millions of Californians. You have to accept an evidence, another essential feature of a PI.
Greetings Dragos,
You bring up a very valid and often overlooked requirement of being a PI. You cannot let your emotions cloud your judgment. You cannot look through colored lenses. You have to stick to the facts. This will stop your career faster then anything I know of besides illegal activity.
The worst thing you can do after you gather information is add personal coloring or allow it to enter into your report writing. Your client did not hire you for your thoughts coloring the information. In fact, it is just the opposite. They are spending money to get a clear uncolored report of facts and information. That is what your end product will be. The client will not see you doing your job only reading the results of you doing your job.
In closing, this is a learned skill and takes work to stay uncolored. If you fail to learn this skill and keep it you will not get hired, stay hired or be offered other work. This will be done through word of mouth. It does not take long for phrases like he/she has clouded judgment. Your end product must be clear, concise and ready to be used by the clients to form their own opinions and decisions. For all those just getting into this line of work you are not the decision maker the client is when you present your report to them. What would your reaction be when you discover you made decisions based on colored or incomplete information. I hope people use this as food for thought as they progress toward the goal of being a PI.
All the best,
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11-28-2003, 12:37 PM
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Dragos Sfinteanu
11-28-2003, 12:44 PM
I expressed an idea (maybe a conclusion). You developed it in a masterly manner, as a part of a first-class lecture about PI features. Congratulations.
Bryan McManis
11-28-2003, 09:32 PM
Originally posted by Dragos Sfinteanu
I expressed an idea (maybe a conclusion). You developed it in a masterly manner, as a part of a first-class lecture about PI features. Congratulations.
Greetings Dragos,
Thank you for the very kind words. You have shown me that you have the instinctive level of skills to be a very good PI. In whatever area you choose to go into. What you hit on is at the core of every good PI.
Unfortunately, this core skill is overlooked or not taught at all. There is one other core skill you have to have and that is your writing skills. Your finished report is all you have in the end to give a client.
In closing, I wish you all the best as you pursue your goals here in the forums.
Dragos Sfinteanu
11-29-2003, 03:34 AM
It is my turn to thank you for your kind words. They might be a little exagerated since not all PI areas are the same for me. I would reluctantly accept some of them but delighted to get in other areas. Fortunately, they are 52, maybe more.
All the best for you,
Dragos
Laverne Griffin
12-19-2003, 03:33 PM
Arnold should be investigated, If this was any one else they would have been investigated, his acting is what got him in office.
Arnold Schwarzenegger
Mr. Bill Lockyer suddently became eager for an investigation concerning Arnold Schwarzenegger’s 20-yr old misconduct.
In my opinion the reason appears obvious, starting from the level of an average High School student. Why all 16 women made their allegations now? They could do it when the facts allegedly happened, more than 20 years ago, when Schwarzenegger was rich enough to reimburse them for the harm done. Or latter on, when he became a millionaire. Paula Jones did not wait so long. She got her million at a level much more elevated than the new Governor of California. The explanations in this respect could probably be offered by the Private Investigator hired by Mr.Schwarzenegger.
Besides the average HS student, people who read newspapers still remember the 2002 California elections, when former Governor Davis campaigned against Bill Simon. At a moment there were rumours in the media that Arnold Schwarzenegger could enter the race, followed by “counter-rumours” threatening the movie-star with a “secret weapon”- the revelation of his “sins of the past”, specifically sexual misconduct. At that time Schwarzenegger did not enter the campaign. He entered the 2003 race to recall Governor Davis. After becoming the front runner, the “secret weapons” (i.e. the 16 allegations) were deployed on the battle field. Nobody was really surprised and the Californians voted overwhelmingly for Arnold as the new Governor.
Mr. Bill Lockyer also voted for him (see first posting). Now, he abruptly is changing his mind, asking for an investigation. The explanation, as mentioned above could probably be supplied by the Private Investigator hired in this matter.
I would like to express my opinion, shared by a large number of Californians, that the new Governor should be let to work, to confront the big challenge of the tough and sad heritage of the former Governor. Mr Schwarzenegger needs support, not harassment. [/QUOTE]
Dragos Sfinteanu
12-29-2003, 12:53 AM
Originally posted by LaVerne Griffin
....his acting is what got him in office.
Just a remainder. Ronald Reagan and Clint Eastwood did very good jobs when in their (administrative) offices.
Schwartzenegger acted well from his first day in office. So far, so good. ;)
Michael Runner
06-09-2004, 02:28 PM
The main concern here is why would the 16 accusers wait 20 years to come forward? If it was for money they would have come forward sooner. If it was for 15 min of fame it would have been sooner. The only obvious option left is POLITICAL. Why is it some people don't know when to stop? If you lose the race... its over.
Mark Neidert
08-01-2004, 01:34 PM
I am not from California. I do not know that much about its politics. I like Arnold as an actor, but am not a big fan. On the other hand, I really admire him as a human being. ( Did you know that when the president approached him to do the physical fitness program in our nations schools he traveled all over to promote it, he also paid for the expenses to do this out of his own pocket.)
What I now admire most about the way Arnold has handled this unfortunate situation is his willingness to admit his mistakes and to not hinder an investigation. Many men would have denied it or tried to cover it up. He apologized to the ladies for his insesitive treatment and apologized to them. him.
I don't know if Arold will be a good governor, but I believe he is an honorable person.
Ivan Delgado-Orlic--
08-02-2004, 03:13 PM
I found this threat to be very positive and to the point. I am an Arnold fan, both as an actor as well as a person. I think he is the kind of individual that can give a good name to one of the ugliest professions in this country: politician. It is a part of life for anyone in the public eye, in particular politicians, to be scrutinized and any dirt uncovered. I do not commend any mistreatment of women, but if all Arnold did was to not treat these ladies in the best way (a little too affectionate) 20 years ago, then he should be praised! I do not know the details but making this a big deal is simply ridiculous, especially considering the fact that Arnold has a lot of work to do in California.
Thanks
Elmer Branch
08-02-2004, 11:11 PM
RE: Arnold Schwargenegger was he not screened by all prior to placing on balliot for gov. of Calif.
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