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Michael Harris
09-06-2003, 11:54 PM
Bounty hunters in fight to keep doing their jobs

After court rulings against them, some who recover fugitives say outlaws are gaining protection. Appeals are planned.

By Wendy Ruderman
INQUIRER STAFF WRITER

Rodger Jones, a bounty hunter who runs a fugitive recovery business in Cumberland County, says he feels like his, profession is under siege.

In June, one of his employees was convicted of trespass in trying to force his way into the Gloucester County home of a woman whose son had jumped bail.

Now, a state appeals court says Jones can no longer carry his 40-caliber Heckler & Koch handgun when apprehending fugitives.

"It's becoming clear to me that the state attorney general and some county prosecutors are protecting criminals," Jones 'said -yesterday. "The criminals are getting more and more power."

Jones said he and other bounty hunters would not give up without a fight.

Kenneth Wickliff, who was found guilty of criminal trespass June 3, yesterday alerted the Gloucester County Prosecutor's Office that he would appeal his conviction.

And Jones said he would not relinquish his permit to carry a gun until the state Attorney General's Office served him with a court order – even though a three-judge appeals panel ruled last week-that he had not made a strong enough case to justify carrying a handgun on the job.

"As far as we're concerned, from the date of this opinion, they have no right to carry guns," said Lori Linskey, the deputy attorney general who represented the state in the case 'before the state Appellate Division on Aug. 28.

She said she would seek a court order, if necessary, to ensure that Jones turned over his carry permit.

Jones, 35, said he was considering an appeal, though he had already shelled out about $40,000 in legal fees.

The appellate ruling is the latest legal development in a debate over whether' bounty hunters can carry handguns and make arrests in New Jersey.

Bounty hunters believe that a U.S. Supreme Court opinion from 1872 gives them the authority to arrest a fugitive by any means necessary, including by carrying a gun or breaking into homes.

But that Wild West-era ruling has failed recent tests in New Jersey, where judges have concluded that state law supersedes federal.

"The appellate court didn't give a lot of credence to the case from the 1800s that all bounty hunters cling to," Linskey said. "They better start clinging to something else."

The three-judge appeals panel ruled that bounty hunters do not have an automatic right to carry guns when trying to apprehend fugitives, Instead, each permit application must be decided on a case-by-case basis.

In New Jersey, anyone who is not a law enforcement officer and wants to' carry a gun must show a "justifiable, need," according to the law, proving that in the course of performing a job authorized by law, he or she "is subject to a substantial threat of serious bodily harm."

Statewide, there are 4,500 active carry permits, but most of those, about 3,500, were issued to retired police officers. The rest went to security guards and those who drive armored trucks, according to state police spokesman Sgt. Gerald Lewis.

The appellate ruling grew out of cases in two counties in which bounty hunters sought to carry permits. A Superior Court judge had granted Jones, who co-owns AmeriTac Fugitive Recovery in Millville, Cumberland County, and two colleagues the right to carry guns, saying police departments cannot pursue every fugitive.

The state Attorney General's Office appealed the 2002 ruling, arguing that trained police officers, not bounty hunters, should apprehend fugitives.

Larry Irwin -
10-21-2003, 12:37 PM
What a story. I have been a bounty hunter you need a gun.

Michael Harris
10-22-2003, 09:42 PM
Without bounty hunters (fugitive recovery agents), who will be willing to post bonds? Without the bail bondsman being able to recover a fugitive, the bail bondsman will not write bonds and every criminal will go to jail or be released ROR.

Valerie Roach
10-25-2003, 10:09 AM
What a fork in the road, here. Dinged if you do, and danged if you don't. I've done EPS but not bounty hunting.... my best wishes for your safety to all those PI's who are bounty hunters.

Dragos Sfinteanu
10-26-2003, 11:45 PM
The movie "Hunter" (Steve McQueen playing a busy bounty hunter) suggests that for this kind of job you have to have a gun. Most malefactors are tempted to resist arrest.

Maurice Hopkins
11-24-2003, 09:03 PM
There are two things I have to say about this article. First thing and not to offend anyone, but the state laws can never supersede federal laws. The US Constitution was put in place to place use rules and regulations to abide by, as we all know there are loop holes in it. The US Supreme Court is the top court, followed by the Circuit Court of Appeals and then the US District Courts. The states were given police powers to police the people. Which brought about the State Supreme Courts, the Commonwealth Courts, the Superior Courts, followed by the Common Pleas Court and then Administrative Agencies.

Positivistic Law consists of written laws, regulations, etc. The US Constitution is the beginning of written laws, it is the Supreme Law of the Land. It brought about the three articles: article #1 Legislative- they make the laws, article #2 Executive Branch- (President)...Enforces the laws and finally article #3 Judical System- arbitrates the laws. They cannot makr new laws , they can only expand on what is already written, according to (article # 1-section 8 Powers of Congress)...any other powers are reserved to the states...according to the 10th amendment.

http://iwhome.com/Constitution/cns0/cns041.htm

Amendment X

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.


Common Law is the underlying development of legal theory in the United States, it is the body of rules and principles relating to the government and the security of persons and property which had its orgin, development, and formulation in England. Brought to the American colonies by people of Anglo-Saxon heritage, these basic rules were formally adopted in the states in which they were in force after the American Revolution. These princilpes are derived from the application of natural reason, an innate sense of justice, and the dictates of conscience. The common law is not the result of legislative enactment. Rather, its authority is derived solely from the usages and customs which have been recognized, affirmed and enforced by the courts through the judicial decisions over many years.

Common Law is not a fixed or absolute set of written rules in the same sense as statutoryor legislatively enacted law. The unwritten principles of common law are flexible and adopted to the changes that occur in a growing society. States have the authority to police the people. The State can control the people and their welfare and wellbeing, but they cannot violate their civil rights or the rights given to the in the US Constitution. The State Constitution cannot for any reason supersede the US Constitution, which is the Supreme Law of the Land.

Secondly...Bounty Hunters do have a right to carry and arrest, they are given police powers but under different guidelines than law enforcement. So they must abide by the laws of the state in which they are granted these powers.

Michael Harris
12-31-2003, 08:23 PM
Maurice,

Logic and law do not change the facts reported in the paper.

Many jurisdictions and local DAs use this kind of strong-arm tactic to advance their political careers. The local officials are idiots. In NJ, an elected official is a crook by definition.

Donna Coleman
12-31-2003, 08:35 PM
humm....I don't know much about bouty hunters but have watched several shows on television and from what I have seen this is a very dangerous job and they need to carry a weapon. I would not give up my weapon because when you are going after a felon they probably have some kind of weapon with them and will not be afraid to use it. Bounty hunters must be able to defend themselves. I guess more to follow on this case

Michael Harris
12-31-2003, 08:37 PM
Donna,

The news article is almost four months old. I wonder what is happening.

I will contact the reporter for an update.

Donna Coleman
12-31-2003, 08:42 PM
Yes September, it would be interesting to know how that turned out.

Thanks!! Happy New year:)

Michael Harris
12-31-2003, 09:04 PM
Donna,

I just sent off an email message to the writer (Wendy Ruderman) asking for an update. I also let her know where we are so she can come visit the IPIU.

Donna Coleman
12-31-2003, 11:22 PM
Thanks Michael will be looking for the update...Happy New Year!!

Michael Harris
01-01-2004, 09:42 AM
Donna,

Sometimes I need a little push to do the things I should - like following up on this story. Thank You! :D